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05-29-2013, 06:36 PM
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LOL BS. K there defensive specialist.

1) Why are the Bruins/Kings/Sharks/Penguins/Blackhawks one of the top 5 defensive teams? Don't you think their physicality has something to do with it? The way the Bruins bruise you down (especially come POs) is a good thing for defense. If you make a big hit or continuously hit the other team, you can force them into giveaways/turnovers. Anyone who watches hockey would see this.
And yet the Blackhawks were dead last in the league in the stats column... Sharks were 22nd... Even the Penguins and the Bruins barely get into the top 1/3... hmm...

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2) Takeaways are just as important as giveaways.
Then I would present a combined "stat", as opposed to just one or the other.

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4) I don't understand what that means but the reason why Faceoff % is a minorly emphasized statistic for defense is because if you can't win faceoffs in your own zone, you're probably going to give up a scoring opportunity or shot(s) off the draw. Make sense?
Sure does. Begs the question though: did you provide defensive zone faceoff percentage rankings, or "total"?

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6) There is no such thing as an official NHL statistic for odd man rushes, breakaways, outnumbered in defensive zone coverage, leaving opponents unchecked in the slot that I know of (unless somebody can post a link that has these statistics). I know i've made that kind of point in the past, with nothing to back it up. What i have now is despite allowing the 5th least amount of shots, their defensive "ranking" was still average, or very very very slightly better than average at 14th. Explain this to me? I'm puzzled.
I think everyone's at least a bit puzzled arguing an arbitrary set of factors manipulated to provide an arbitrary ranking system, and its correlation to the results of the games and the "eye test".

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Despite having one of the top 5 best defensive "ranked" teams in front of him, Jonathan Quick's stats are very similar to Price's...weird
At what point does this ranking show me the difference between Montreal starting off the season with a healthy defense and healthy goalie but ending with injuries to both, and L.A. starting off the year without one of its top 4 defensemen and a recovering goalie but ending the year healthy? Seems to me like those were roads going in opposite directions that were bound to meet somewhere along the line; whatever the statistical particulars may be. The defensive play of the Kings' forwards compared to the Habs' is definitely an edge, though.

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