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06-09-2013, 02:12 PM
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Sonny Lamateena
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Originally Posted by quoipourquoi View Post
That's a bad way to measure players, and I'll give you an example as to why: Old Teemu Selanne bested Alex Ovechkin three times in six seasons in terms of points or points-per-game in the years leading into the most recent lockout. All of those victories of Selanne's were marginal: Beat Ovechkin by 2 points in 2007, 1 point in 2012, .002 points-per-game in 2011. Ovechkin, of course, cleaned Selanne's clock in the other three years when he was winning Pearson trophies, and arguably had a better three year stretch of value in those seasons than the value of Selanne's entire career. But if you compare those six seasons in a binary Player A Wins or Player B Wins, count 'em up game, they look equal.


Tim Thomas beat Henrik Lundqvist in the comparative years by save percentages of .009, .015, and .017.

Henrik Lundqvist beat Tim Thomas in the comparative years by save percentages of .005, .006, .010, and .012.

Hence, Thomas having the better statistical overlap in the regular season, the two save percentage titles, and the additional Vezina.
Ok then wouldn't comparing number of Vezina wins and 1st All-Star team finishes be equally flawed? It's [pretty clear that when it comes to Vezina voting and All Star finishes, the gap between Thomas and Lundqvist in years when Thomas finished higher is much smaller than in years when Lundqvist beat Thomas.

Vezina
06 Lundqvist (3rd), Thomas (No Votes)
07 Lundqvist (3rd), Thomas (No Votes)
08 Lundqvist (3rd), Thomas (9th)
09 Thomas (1st). Lundqvist (6th)
10 Lundqvist (6th), Thomas (No Votes)
11 Thomas (1st), Lundqvist (4th)
12 Lundqvist (1st), Thomas (No Votes)

All-Star Voting
06 Lundqvist (3rd), Thomas (No Votes)
07 Lundqvist (7th), Thomas (No Votes)
08 Lundqvist (4th), Thomas (10th)
09 Thomas (1st). Lundqvist (9th)
10 Lundqvist (9th), Thomas (No Votes)
11 Thomas (1st), Lundqvist (5th)
12 Lundqvist (1st), Thomas (No Votes)

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