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06-16-2013, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HiggsBozon View Post
"You have no clue what you're talking about rahrahrahrahrah derp..."

Stop drinking the kool-aid. Gorges is the most overrated player on these boards. You and the others still fail to bring anything else than "shot-blocking" and those supposed leadership qualities to talk about what he brings as contributions to this team. Still, for the "great" leader he is supposed to be, he keeps saying the most stupid things, he keeps getting on Subban's back, and he keeps acting like a tool. His shot blocking is often a weakness, as he is very often the one deflecting shots in his own net. He's slow. He's not physical. He's got 0 offensive abilities. That, PLUS we saw last year he is bound to have one or two seasons here and there where he's not even good defensively... and all that, while playing on a team which was on a HUGE hot streak.

Bring me something this guy brings... Tell me about ONE thing. One SINGLE thing he brings other than shot blocking.

First pass?
Shooting?
Offensive zone passing?
Toughness?
Crease-clearing abilities?
Skating?

Tell me of ONE single aspect Gorges brings that makes you say: "Wow! He's really making a living out of doing that!"

Then, tell me if it's worth a 6 years contract for 4M a season.

You guys stop *****ing about how Bergevin will pay 7M dollars to a 23 years old Norris Trophy winner, and start wondering about how much we pay guys like Gorges and Gionta, who add absolutely nothing to the identity of a team, and who eat almost 15% of the salary cap.
Total drivel and a garbage post.

I'd somewhat agree if you were trying to argue that Gorges was overpaid or something but to totally and disingenuously ignore defensive qualities when assessing a d-man is inexcusable. Either you're blind, a fool or intentionally withholding those points - in either case, you're totally wrong and ignorant of reality.

For the record: I hated Hamrlik and his contribution to the team. At his cap hit (at the time) and usage, I found that he wasn't bringing half of what his contemporaries offered for the same hit. I called him fat, cowardly, lazy and so on. Thing is, while he didn't bring any physicality, crease-clearing or point play, and while he constantly lazily chipped the puck out instead of making a play - his positional game was 2nd to none on our team. I just wanted more because the man was playing 20-25 minutes a night and murdering any chance at a transition game.

But with today's cap and our team structure, with PK, Markov and Diaz - Gorges' contribution is different.

Gorges is a fully defensive defenseman, and time and time again it's been shown that defensive defenseman are hard to assess and their contribution even harder to quantify.

His positioning, timing, stick work and awareness are what you should be talking about. And if you knew a thing about hockey you'd know that Gorges is a pretty damn good dman with all those considerations.

He doesn't lose the play like Bouillon, he doesn't jump into the lane too early like Markov, etc. He was just exposed by Therien's awful defensive system but honestly, so was everybody else.

I'm on my phone at the moment so I won't delve into it too much but Gorges today is definitely our 3rd best dman. He brings much stability and time crunching to our sorry d-corps and I'd trust him out there over Diaz, Emelin or the rest of the smurf kingdom any day.


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