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06-20-2013, 01:01 AM
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I think as a 'can't miss' prospect Mackinnon is just a notch down from former can't miss prospects like Lindros,Crosby and Ovechkin and a notch above the majority of number 1 rated prospects the past 20 years.

This franchise is absolutely rudderless right now, it's not just the fans who need the hope a potential saviour/franchise player brings. the players themselves look at each other and see the same things we do and it affects them.

Think ahead to January, the Sabres are playing on the NBC game of the week or in Toronto playing the Leafs - the promo for that game will be 'Nathan Mackinnon and the Buffalo Sabres ............ blah blah blah'. The Sabres desperately need that kind of change in identity.

I'd trade half this team to get Mackinnon, there are barely any players in the top half of this team that I can ever envision being core players on a Stanley Cup final team. Who here can say differently?

Girgensons and Larsson are prospects that look like the type of players that one day might be warriors in June. I can't give up on Myers yet. One of Hodgson or Ennis needs to go. Gerbe, sorry li'l fella, sometimes size does matter in places other than on the set of a porn movie.
One of Hodgson, Ennis, or Grigorenko can easily go if we're getting MacKinnon in return. The problem is what else needs to go in order to make that happen. You still need to be able to put some players around MacKinnon on his line and others just to keep his head above water, nevermind needing to build a Cup core around him. Gerbe's value is probably something like a 4th round pick if we're lucky, so he's rather irrelevant.

Like you said, you'd trade half the team to get him. So would I, if that half were the actual crap we can easily stand to be rid of, but that's not what would get it done. They're not going to want a quantity of crap. They're going to probably want someone who can be a top line player and someone who can be a top pairing defender. Then we'd have to add to make it worth their trouble.

The only comparable trade I can think of is the Lindros one in which Philly gave up a Hall of Famer and some great assets (including "future considerations" that wound up down the line being Chris Simon AND another 1st rounder). Now, no one knew Forsberg would be a Hall of Famer but he was just selected 6th overall. Though most had him rated later in the 1st, if the league-wide state of international scouting and drafting then were what it is today he'd have been rated much higher. The Flyers regarded him very highly, obviously, and it hurt them like hell to have to include him in the deal.

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