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06-20-2013, 12:20 PM
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Ok, firstly it won't change unless someone from outside the organization comes in and changes the culture.
Secondly, the Red Wings would be a nice model don't you think? The Kings aren't a bad one either. Boston, not bad. Chicago? They drafted their core and use FA and trades to bring people in and then ship them out after their run, keeping the core intact. That's a great way to do it. These teams actually do have the right mix of win now and plan for the future.
The Flyers..well the Flyers
the Rangers. The two are almost mirror images as far as their philosophies go, the difference is the talent evaluation in our organization is usually better.
There is no sure fire way to win a championship. Some teams stink and get lucky and draft Crosby. Some teams get lucky and have overpaid old players that somehow get it done (2009 Yankees). However, the best way to do pretty much everything in life is to be somewhere in between those extremes.
Free Agency does not build you a championship team, but neither does the draft. You have to draft the core of your team and add to it through FA. The Flyers have tried to create part of the core of their team through FA and trades for a long time, and it doesn't work.
The Kings drafted their best players, but they wouldn't have won anything if they had not traded for Carter and Richards, they would be Edmonton, or Columbus. They've been building through the draft for how long now? They're still no where. But the Kings did it the right way. They traded for players in their prime, that will be with them in the future, and have useful years left. The Flyers acquire Modry's, and Amonte's, and Burke's, and sign Rathje's and Geoff Sanderson's. Old, past their prime, often overpaid players that aren't with the team for long. That doesn't win championships.
Holmgren's biggest push for a cup was Pronger, and that was a steep price but a trade worth making. Even though he was old and past his prime, he was still a top 5 dman in the league and would probably still be a solid top 4 guy now. But a lot of the moves made in the past 20 years have been ill advised. Acquiring players good enough to keep the team good, but not good enough to win, and at the cost of potentially better players or more flexibility in the future.
Red Wings would be a good team to model, no argument there. However, that is a lot easier said than done. You realize that in order to run a franchise like the Blackhawks and Kings, you have to be a pretty bad team for a pretty long time. The Kings made the playoffs like five times since 2000. Blackhawks were among the worst franchises in the league for a pretty long time. The Bruins have done a lot of trading and free agent signings, both of youths and of veterans, not unlike the Flyers to a certain extent. The bottom line is simple. We all want perfection, obviously. I want an owner/ceo/gm whatever that is going to be under the cap, keep all draft picks, sign the best contracts, and plan for the future while also being competitive in the here and now. The problem is that is very difficult. Yes, some teams have done it, most notably the Red Wings. But that doesn't mean that Ed Snider is a problem.
Like I said, be careful what you wish for. Say goodbye to Ed Snider and bring in someone from the outside. Then after five straight years of missing the playoffs and not going after big name guys people will be complaining that the new guy doesn't care about winning.
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