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06-21-2013, 10:24 PM
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If you posit theories and opinions without quantifying them, it is no different than saying, it just is.
All I have asked for is evidence to back up opinions other than results. Results can be because of a myriad of reasons. Saying that the results were because of a coach not adapting to something that fans seem to be sure was a problem is illogical unless you think Tortorella is a blathering idiot.
We know he isn't that, at least as far as coaching a hockey team. He may be an idiot in other ways and a jerk behavior-wise, but he knows the intricacies of coaching a hockey team far better than any of us that post here, despite what some seem to believe.
You realize that any evidence I give you will not be quantifiable, right? For example, the Rangers struggled to break up forechecks and exit the zone against the Senators, Capitals and Devils last year. That was due to our forwards collapsing too low and not being able to provide puck support higher up along the walls. We saw the same thing happening against the Capitals and Bruins this year. Sure, you can quantify it if someone had clocked the amount of zone time spent trying to break forechecks and failing because of that specific reason. But we haven't done that, so it's a qualitative assessment based on watching the action on the ice. This was a problem last year. It was a problem this year. No sign of adaptation from the team. Either that means a.) the coach never gave the team an adjustment to help with the issue or b.) the coach did give the team the adjustment and they didn't bother executing it. Either one is a problem.
Another example would be the zone entry on the powerplay (nevermind the setup of the powerplay itself). Entering the zone on the powerplay shouldn't be a problem. Park two guys on either end of the opposing blueline. Have one player attack the blueline with speed, on whichever side of the ice feels best. Back the D up, enter the zone, pass the puck off to one of the two guys following along the boards. This isn't rocket science and it's how most of the good powerplays in the league gain zone entry. Setup follows from there. The Rangers barely ever were able to execute that. When they tried to set up that zone entry, instead the puck carrier would dump it in. The two guys at the blueline would be standing relatively still and would be unable to retrieve the puck. Or the puck carrier would attack the line with speed, but would have no support and would end up turning the puck over. This was an issue last year. It was an issue this year. Either that means a.) the coach never gave the team an adjustment to help with the issue or b.) the coach did give the team the adjustment and they didn't bother executing it. Either one is a problem.
assessments of the team's play supported by logical deduction on how it reflects on the coach. These are system issues that have little to do with the talent on the team. Stop looking for quantifiables. Watch the game. Use reason.
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