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06-25-2013, 10:35 AM
Zemgus Da Gawd
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Upstate NY
Originally Posted by
Of the 50 highest cap hits in today's NHL, only one is an ""elite 50 point two way player" like you guys are talking about. Jordan Staal at 46. You guys can go around agreeing with each other, convincing one another how right you have it, but scorers have been and always will be more coveted and more in demand than two way players.
And those two way players don't have more trade value if they are at the same points in their careers, ever.
Except we're talking about two players that aren't,
what a surprise. That's why Vanek for Oshie makes sense. Oh, and in three years (honestly next season) Buffalo's a playoff team built around a lot of high-potential young pieces. Your tangent about "oh, we'll trade him for a #6 defenseman when his contract is up" is another round of histrionics.
And I can't believe I let you arbitrarily cap this debate at 50 points, especially considering I never presumed that's where I thought Oshie's offensive ceiling was, and
all I actually said
was that if Oshie works out, he's only losing you ~15 points from what Vanek proivded over the past few seasons, while being vastly superior defensively, more physical, and younger. Which is true.
Oshie isn't a "50 point role player," he's a first line checking forward, who have historically gotten paid and are rarely allowed to hit free agency. That doesn't change the fact that "50 point role players" also frequently have more value than overpaid scorers with limited dimensions for a host of reasons.
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