Did Trevor Timmins learn from his mistakes?
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07-03-2013, 07:10 PM
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There's no way. Wasn't PG and A GM with BG? Weren't they the ones that wanted AK instead. He was the Director of Professional Scouting then so idk if he has a say in amateur scouting.
When he took over as GM in 2010. Those picks (2010, 2011) were Tinordi, Beaulieu, I think Kristo as well and i'm missing some others. TT is the man. Anyone else who says otherwise is clearly delusional.
As for 2003-2010, BG probably had more of a push for CP31 in 2005, AK46 most likely in 2003 and in 2006 BG probably pushed for a defenseman who wasn't the BPA. 2007 was gold in McD, Patches, and Subban in the 2nd round which, IMO i think was all TT probably after telling Gainey "we did it your way before, let me have at it now, i'll get you some great talent." Lo behold, he has a top 4 defenseman, a top 6 power forward, and a top 5 NHL defenseman from those first 2 rounds.
TT FOR GM!
This is pretty conjectural, dude. Going by internet legend (it's not worth much, but I think it's still more reliable than your splendid speculation), the 2003 draft was largely A. Savard's legacy -- Kostitysn and Urqhart in particular.
Likewise, so the internet has informed me over the years, in 2005 Timmins presented Gainey with the choice between a goalie (Price) and a defenceman (Staal) at 5th overall. Gainey said, take the goalie.
The Fischer pick has already been covered in this thread. I had actually thought that the pick was attributable to Vaughn Karpan, the Minnesota scout who pushed hard when he was with Phoenix for Blake Wheeler at 5th overall, but it looks like I got mixed up on that one.
Anyway, I'm not sure why you pass off a statement of fact as an IMO. It either did or didn't happen that way, and your opinion on whether it did or did not is irrelevant. I guess what you mean to say is IMB (belief, however warranted) or IMF (fantasy -- why not, it's the internet, after all). In that case, fair enough, keep speculating.
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