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The Knicks roster is flawed?

Funny because a lot of people were saying that last offseason. Remember?

"They're too old"

"They're too slow"
If your ultimate goal is building a legitimate title contender, then yes, the Knicks are incredibly flawed. They are neither an actual contender or a team with the assets, young talent, and roster flexibility to make the leap to being one.

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"They'll never replace Lin and Fields"
I've always contended that Lin is an overrated backup pg and Fields is a mediocre role player.

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The Knicks were one of the best teams in the league last year. They lost to an Indiana team which took Miami to the brink.
They took advantage of a weak, injury wracked Eastern Conference to nab a second seed. If that's your goal, then mission accomplished I guess. Even then, the chances of them repeating that performance this year are highly suspect.

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Melo
Felton
Shumpert
Chandler
Prigioni
Smith
Bargnani
Stoudemire

Easily one of the best teams in the EC. The NBA isnt the NFL or NHL where you need to stockpile picks and load up the organization at multiple positions.
If you think this is a strong roster, then you're delusional. Are names like Felton, Bargnani, Prigioni, Smith, and Stoudemire supposed to be impressive? I actually like Shumpert and Chandler, but come on:

Carmelo - Is very, very good at what he does, but does very, very little. He scores, he rebounds, and he uses his strength in the post.
Felton - In a league where everyone seems to have at least an above average pg, Felton is the definition of mediocrity.
Bargnani - Is just terrible at everything. He hasn't even shot well the last few years.
Prigioni - Is a nice backup pg woohoo.
Smith - Is the prototypical hot and cold volume bench scorer without the faintest inkling of basketball iq.
Stoudemire - Can't stay healthy and can't play defense.

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All you need is two stars and you're a championship contender. One star can do it as well. The Knicks are not going to be bad in the near future, so why hold on to a late-round pick who won't develop into a star?
You have a fundamental lack of understanding of NBA roster construction. Where are these title teams that aren't incredibly well constructed? The Heat roster that has won the last two titles fits together perfectly. Yes they have LeBron, but they have also surrounded him with three point shooters who space the floor and force the opposition to either single team him or leave someone like Ray Allen wide open. You cannot run the kind of crazy misdirection, small-ball sets they feature with just two stars and a random assortment of role players.

Thinking it's ok to dump first round picks because they're not likely to turn into stars is exactly the kind of process that leaves you with the current Knicks roster. Constantly developing useful young talent on rookie contracts is how teams maintain roster flexibility. There's a reason you never see a team like the Spurs just haphazardly dump a draft pick. In a salary cap league you have to maintain your options. Also, drafting a lot of productive young players is how you accumulate the assets to deal for superstars when they actually become available.

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Knicks are fine. I'm convinced the only people who complain about what the Knicks have done the last three seasons are either fans of other teams or just don't know basketball.
The Knicks are fine in the same way the Rangers were fine during the Jagr years. Good enough to sell tickets and maybe win a round in the playoffs, but nothing more.

The supposed promised land of cap space and superstars the Knicks will reach in two years faces the same problem the Lakers are having convincing Dwight Howard to stay: If all you have is a bunch of cap space and no talent to surround potential star free agents with, then star free agents aren't going to want to sign with you.

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