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07-09-2013, 11:36 AM
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Maurice Richard and Other Misconceptions
Originally Posted by
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Why does handedness matter in that instance? The only time it affects them for a pass from the corner is if they are on the rush with the puck; and they can instead go around behind the net or cut straight to the net with a FOREHAND shot available to them (see Ovechkin and Bure for examples of this).
Richard played with with a series of talented centers (Lach, H.Richard, etc.) and his role was to put the puck in the net. He focused on scoring goals (and was very, very good at it) and gave only the minimal consideration to other areas of the game. He was a speedy shoot-first player with a mean streak who was playing on his off wing.
Does that description sound familiar? It should; it also fits Ovechkin (until this season) and Bure (after 1992).
Playing styles may change depending on handedness (you have far more net on your forehand from your off-wing, but passing on the rush and defending along the boards can be more difficult).
But ultimately, what you're saying about Gainey, etc. is that a LW can't succeed on the RW in any capacity. That's not true. And with your Gainey example, it's also not true with regards to defense.
Right-handed Jere Lehtinen
played Selke-level defense on both wings (and was robbed of two Selkes by Rod Brind'Amour's career nice-guy image and more recently developed high-level defensive game). Right-handed Kirk Maltby, who broke into the league as a RW with Edmonton, was one of the league's top defensive forwards for a decade while playing LW for Detroit.
If anything, what you're saying is that those players were not as versatile as other, similar players; which would be a strike against those incapable of playing both wings effectively.
Very deficient portrayal of Maurice Richard. The following links will present the proper perspective.
H-R stats package:
notice at age 17 he was playing a midget team in his neighbourhood/district, sponsored by the Paquette garage as a center - normal for neighbourhood teams. Star player played center.
After his junior year at age 18, he played senior hockey for the senior Canadiens, main farm club for the Montreal Canadiens. So Maurice Richard was playing senior hockey as an underager. The experience did not last long as he broke his right ankle.
H-R under transactions implies this happened in the Nov.3, 1940 game against Boston this is incorrect as evidenced by the following link to the November 3, 1940 season opener Boston at Montreal:
As evidenced by the game line-up and write-up
of Maurice Richard being able to participate in the game or being hurt.
Maurice Richard was in the line-up for the seniot Canadiens of the QSHL on November 6, 1940, recording an assist before being hurt:
Maurice Richard made the Montreal Canadiens at the start of the 1942-43 season, playing LW on a line with Tony Demers RW and Elmer Lach center:
scroll to page 18 of the above link for the pre game story and background about Maurice Richard, especially note the injuries.
First game report Richard draws accolades:
Notice that the second link clearly refers to Tony Demers playing his natural position of RW.
Maurice Richard was hurt in the December 27, 1942 game - right leg injury sidelining him for the rest of the year. Copies of the Gazette are not available for the December time period but the HSP gives us a portrait of the game:
Maurice Richard was playing on a line with O'Connor at C and Gordie Drillon at RW.
So until injured in his first NHL season Maurice Richard played LW.
Start of the 1943-44 season and Maurice Richard is shifted to RW on a line with Toe Blake at LW and Elmer Lach at C. Start of the Punch Line:
Jere Lehtinen. Your "robbed" portrayals are getting tiresome. View his H-R stats and transactions:
Note that in the Stars 8th game of the 1999-2000 season Lehtinen suffered a leg injury that kept him out for most of the season. He came back as a LW and played LW the next few years but was never the same explosive skater as before.
Lehtinen injury problems with his ankle and knee are outlined here:
Like Maurice Richard, Jere Lehtinen adjusted his position due to injuries.
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