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07-11-2013, 05:24 PM
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kreider's disastrous rookie season

Originally Posted by Oh Thats Nashty View Post
Kreider had the best Corsi rating on the team during the 11-12 playoffs when he was just allowed to go out there and play hockey. He found open ice and played with guys who could get him the puck. Once Torts got a hold of him and they tried to teach him the system is where those numbers went south. Kreider is most dangerous in open ice and on the rush. Dump and chase/cycling is just a waste of his skill. It also didn't help playing with Boyle/Pyatt most of the time who were both absolutely awful for the majority of the shortened season.

I think he will do much better under AV.
Originally Posted by Frolic and DeTorts View Post
I can't tell if this is sarscasm or not?
Originally Posted by Clowes Line View Post
Stuck him on the 4th line and gave him 3 minutes a game. Either play the kid, or give him top line minutes in the A. He was never given the time of day by Torts. One mistake, and he's on the 4th line.

How can you expect a 21 year old to learn from his mistakes and correct on them if he gets punished for every mistake and gets no chance to redeem himself? Either play the kid, or let him play in the AHL.
Torts by no means put Krieder is a position to fail this season, in fact, he was a very sheltered player that still got abused out there on ES.
Interestingly, Tortorella doesn’t appear to be making that mistake. Chris Kreider, this season, has a Corsi (adjusted to be relative of his teammates) of -17.1, second worst only to Darroll Powe (-20.1). Powe, however, is a grinder, who takes the vast majority of his draws in the defensive zone (35.8%). By percentage, Tortorella deploys Powe in the defensive zone more than any other Ranger forward. He is thus expected to have a low Corsi number, since he’s basically skating uphill.

Kreider, by contrast, leads the Rangers in O-Zone start percentage. His 64.6% ties Brad Richards, who gets a bulk of offensive zone starts to facilitate his playmaking. Put another way: Chris Kreider has floundered this season, despite being babied by Tortorella with very soft minutes.

Torts uses advanced stats according to interview with Mike Gillis IIRC and will continue to deploy it in Vancouver.

Kreider was a very bad player this year, really bad. In fact, one of the worst players on the team.

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