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07-18-2013, 03:35 PM
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and i'm mearly saying that added flexibility does not necessarily equal success...a team like the Habs is not just going to sit there with dead money in their pockets. They're going to spend it regardless.

Perfect example again is the Ryder/Cole swap, which was later negated by the contract handed out to Desharnais a few weeks later.
I understand that, but having more let's you have more options. It's not about having it and doing nothing with it, but if you have 2 million you sign x player and if you have 3 million you can get y player.

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We don't know that yet...that can only be determined once Subban signs his subsequent deal. Again, if MB can sign Subban to a 8yr contract at a 6.5M average, that beats the 5yr 25M contract that people keep speculating about here.
Well this is what I wanted:

2013 ---------> 4,000,000$ (end of the season he is 24)
2013-2014 ---> 4,500,000$ (end of the season he is 25)
2014-2015 ---> 5,000,000$ (end of the season he is 26)
2015-2016 ---> 6,500,000$ (end of the season he is 27)
2016-2017 ---> 7,000,000$ (end of the season he is 28)
2018-2019 ---> 7,500,000$ (end of the season he is 29)
Cap hit of 5,750,000

To stay in compliance with the 35% year to year rule + the 50% of lowest to highest, this is the deal I would offer
2019-2020 ---> 7,000,000$ (end of the season he is 30)
2020-2021 ---> 7,000,000$ (end of the season he is 31)
2021-2022 ---> 5,600,000$ (end of the season he is 32)
2022-2023 ---> 5,600,000$ (end of the season he is 33)
2023-2024 ---> 5,600,000$ (end of the season he is 34)
2024-2025 ---> 3,700,000$ (end of the season he is 35)
2025-2026 ---> 3,700,000$ (end of the season he is 36)
Cap hit of 5,457,000

The later years would be different depending on the cap and inflation.
It's just a rough outline of what I had in mind.

Subban needs to have a long term deal for his next contract, I think we all agree. I do fear it will be 7+ cap hit. An 8 year extension brings him into and out of his prime. After his next contract, he will be on the down side of his career and should be able to be had for cheaper.

All my arguments are based on these figures, and not the 5 years - 25 million. (I understand that is what was discussed, but negotiations could of happened and turned out in almost infinite possibilities)

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