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07-22-2013, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by E = CH² View Post
And that's basically the root of all disagreements you have with most people. The GM doesn't capitulate. He comes to terms on a long term deal with a player whose value is only going to go up. It's a mutually beneficial agreement if the player is indeed on his way up. The player capitulates as much as the GM here because he relinquishes more money for more security.

The fact you do not even understand this basic principle makes any cap hit discussion with you entirely pointless. You're a good poster but on this issue I'll never understand the way you think.
amazing how some get so caught up in "being right" that they can't even glimpse the other side of the argument.

either way you viewed it at the outset/time of the deal, at this point it's pretty hard to make a case that Subban on a multi-year deal under 6M$ (let alone closer to 5M$, which was entirely possible) would be better for the team than the likely 7-8M$ he will cost as of next season.

with the make-up of our current roster, the next 2-4 years would have been an ideal time to have a norris-caliber dman locked up for well below market value. The added cap space coming from Markov-Gionta + the benefit of Galch-Gallagher-Tinordi-Beaulieu all on ELC's, combined with a 2-3M$ savings on our best player, would have been a perfect situation to aggressively pursue the right UFA/trade fit even in having to "overpay" to get it.

losing that 2-3M$ in flexibility, that was right there for the taking, isn't a disaster, it's just a lost opportunity. One that many around here suggested AT THE TIME of the contract... BEFORE Subban went out and played at a certifiable Norris-level.

some of us saw that he was moving quickly to that level, and would have gambled on him in a positive way vs. gambling on a conservative way as our GM did.

you win some, you lose some... but worse than losing is denial, which some posters seem caught up in for whatever reason.

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