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07-26-2013, 03:20 PM
The Zetterberg Era
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There were two camps;
The Jimmy D/Ken Holland Camp
The Bowman Camp.
Jimmy D didn't want Bowman in here as coach but Ilitch forced it. Jimmy D didn't want Bowman as GM, but Bowman went around Jimmy D and became GM.
Finally, a few years later, Jimmy D talked Mike Ilitch into making Holland the GM and Bowman the coach
And when Bowman left, he lobbied hard for Smith. Holland lobbied for Lewis. Jimmy D and Mike Ilitch came out in favor of Holland.
There's a decent section on it in Bowman's autobiography.
I definitely supported Bowman's choice. But I wound up meeting Smith a short time later. Guy is a jerk.
Bowman shared that GM role in triumvirate from 94-95 on. They never trusted Bowman with full autonomy in the front office, the idea that it ever took place is dubious and not supported in titles or anything we know about the organization. It's the Bowman crowd going a little crazy. Great coach, but rightfully checked in power in the management area.
Bowman went to one team that wasn't already great after St. Louis (where he had a GM role and wasn't trusted with the front office) and that was Buffalo where he was given full autonomy. While his players were aging he never showed the kind of front office management many of his fans around here think he did. He couldn't figure out how to get over the hump and his performance was mixed especially in terms of his second hat that he wore as a GM.
I supported Smith over Lewis. In part because it was a coaching knowledge decision and his input should have been valued there. As pointed out Jimmy D remained very powerful throughout his stay although his original choice "Captain Hook" Keenan did in fact lose out to Bowman something we should all be thankful for. Although there seems to be some mix up on how involved report this, but I think he compiled a list for Ilitch and Bowman won the job.
But it's a little tiring to hear about Bowman the titan GM. He has a history of going to organizations that have the pieces in place. He is a great coach, but the credit he gets in the front office is a bit extreme.
The reason Holland won out and got the full GM gig was the work he had done as a senior scout and his role in the three-headed monster. Is it likely to think Holland just lucked into this or that he was so impressive in that role and the ideas he offered up that he was given full power?
Bowman in my opinion lost considerable say more than likely when he attempted to trade the Ilitch's basically adoptive son in Yzerman, that for me was the beginning of the end of what say he had in personnel. Sure he was consulted, just like Babcock is consulted, but make no mistake even the move he is most often credit with in Shanahan was pushed for hard by Holland by almost all accounts of the trade. If Bowman acted as the lone force in that why was he stripped of his GM powers directly afterwards, why did Holland ascend into the role by himself? A lot of the Bowman did everything especially in terms of the front office just doesn't scan whatsoever when you give it deeper thought.
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