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07-26-2013, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrie22 View Post
Its not just hf that spouts it, up until the back to back conference finals basically all media said the same thing.

Even though he had won at world jrs, world cup, world championships, swiss elite league, spengler cup, and at the start of the 1st back to backs was an olympic gold.

He has basically won at every level he has gone except in the nhl, which always is touted as being the hardest team championship to win in the world. But apparently when it comes to saying if some one is a playoff performer or not it should be easy to win one.
He has not won at every level. Saying that he has is hyperbole. He has won in short championships. He did not win a Memorial Cup (neither did Marleau). In this regards, the Swiss League was his high point and their level of competition was not so much. What long championships at top levels do is that they match the top players against each other and different ones at that. They give time to study the opponent and adapt one's game to the specific opponent. This argument is an argument regarding flexibility in play. Being the most flexible in approach is the winning formula. It is not an argument per se against hubris on JT's part, it is an argument about approach and the interplay of what coaches do with dominant players on specific teams. Are they smart enough to push their stars to new levels? Are the stars themselves smart enough? Have the Sharks been deceiving themselves about the necessity of depth in cup runs since acquiring JT (remember their persistant third line issue)?

The standout for JT in terms of the NHL is that of the top 50 scorers in the playoffs in the past decade, he has the lowest plus/minus of all. Again, Marleau is not so good here. It is noteworthy as most high end players don't fare very well in this regard. It is one of the things that makes Lidstrom one of the all-time greats of the hockey world.

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