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07-27-2013, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VanIslander View Post
Carbonneau belongs in the same breath as a Langway: defensively elite but offensively challenged.

Langway went into the Hall in 2002. Carbonneau in 2014!

A defensive forward is no less worthy than a defensive defenseman.

Harvey Pulford is in the Hall for being a premiere defensive defenseman for the early era dynasty Ottawa Silver Seven. Bob Gainey was elected to the Hall in 1992 despite never being top-10 in goals, assists or points.

Elect Carbo before the generations after him overlook his greatness because of the intangibles of the role.

In the all-time drafts on the ATD sub-board of the HfBoards he goes about exactly where he belongs, in terms of value to a team:
Rod Langway showed definite offensive skills with the Canadiens - 5 PP goals and 12 PTS one season:

Similar to Scott Stevens in NJ starting with the 1994-95 season. Stevens' role changed as did the Devils success.

Their is an presumption that a team or a coach has to play a player in certain roles for the player to be considered capable of specific attributes. Prime example being Henri Richard. Great defensive center yet he hardly ever played on the PK. Zero SH goals in the last 12 seasons of his career.Previously the stat was not tracked. Not how the Canadiens played defense in SH situations. Yet this in no way detracts from Richard as a defensive player. Just optimized his TOI in key ES situations.Likewise for Langway, Stevens, Carbonneau.

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