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07-29-2013, 07:43 PM
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Alex Mills
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Originally Posted by Kimahri View Post
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the Phoenix Coyotes. You seem to be the type that takes a quick glance at the stat sheet before coming to hfboards and posting. Morris more expendable than Klesla? Domingue is behind Visentin and Lee on the depth chart. Visentin didn't "make the jump" to the AHL, he was up from the start. Unless you are counting his one career ECHL game, that was in mid March I believe? It's like you are telling an actual Coyotes fan about how the team he follows depth chart is situated, and who is and isn't expendable. And doing a terrible job in the process.
A pretty needy spin, but not entirely accurate. The statement that was made was that Domingue is perhaps their best goaltending prospect, and his resume and recent play support that line of thinking.

All three goalies spent time in the ECHL and AHL last season as the team continues to assess their talent, sensitivity to timelines notwithstanding. Lee was named ECHL Goalie Of The Week in late October and also participated in the ECHL All-Star Game, but was bounced around a bit afterward. Domingue replaced him as the starter, and he finished the regular season on an impressive 10-2-0 run with a 2.09 goals against, 0.926 save percentage and two shutouts to help Gwinnet reach the second round of the playoffs for the first time in five years. He went 6-3-1 with a 2.23 goals against, 0.926 save percentage and two more shutouts in the playoffs. He also had two winning streaks of six or more games last year, and never had a losing streak of more than two games. Domingue also won a championship in a tandem with Riopel in Moncton three years ago, something neither Lee nor Visentin has on their professional resume.

As for Visentin, he obviously spent the majority of the season in Portland but he didn’t play well, earned no honors, was demoted at one point in March and failed to make an appearance in the postseason, so it’s pretty difficult to argue he’s ahead of anyone on a depth chart after that. And Lee made no playoff appearances for either team this year either. It begins to downgrade both of their organizational importance despite whatever their depth chart positions were before. In his brief stint in Portland, Domingue had better numbers than the both of them regardless of the sample size, and my only point before the hissy fit was that it might makes more sense for the organization to see how he does with a full season in the AHL next year based on his performance this year, rather than trade him to a team that doesn’t need him or Klesla and already has some decent goaltending prospects of their own.

Morris has primarily been an offensive-minded defenseman throughout his career, but his point production has been in steady decline for the better part of a decade now and he just completed his first NHL season without scoring a single goal. He’s improved his physical game over the past couple of years, but he’s still below average in that respect. With Ekman-Larsson and Yandle leading the charge and Stone, Rundblad and Gormley all knocking on the door, Morris’ days in Phoenix are numbered. He was already asked to waive his no trade clause to join the Bruins at the deadline in April according to multiple reports, but the Bruins acquired Redden instead.

In terms of similarities, neither Morris nor Klesla have played a full NHL season since 2008 and both have pretty ugly career +/- ratings, but Klesla has been the steadier of the two over the past couple of seasons, including their playoff run last summer. Morris had 22 points and 74 PIMs with a -18 rating in 98 games over that stretch, while Klesla had 21 points and 76 PIMs with a +13 rating in 103 games. Morris has a career rating of -42, including a -16 rating since coming back to Phoenix three years ago. Klesla has a career rating of -43, but is +7 since arriving in Phoenix two years ago. It’s obviously not all about numbers, but Klesla has a slight advantage there based on the recent past.

Klesla is also the biggest body they have on the blue line, and every team needs those invaluable, experienced guys that clear the crease, especially those that take it up another notch in the playoffs. If he was traded for Read, they’d lose a much-needed physical presence down low without a suitable replacement due to their current surplus of mobile defensemen, and Smith would be in for a long season of screens, deflections and second chance opportunities. And we all saw what happened to the Flyers when faced with that same dilemma last year.

It’s surprising there was no legitimate reason mentioned in the reply as to why Domingue couldn’t have possibly moved atop their positional depth chart after this season or why he’s so disposable. He gets mentioned in a lopsided, throwaway trade proposal, and suddenly someone hung up on CapGeek accuracy and blind assumption decides to jump in and recklessly defend the two guys supposedly ahead of him who didn’t get playing time when it mattered most as well as the defenseman that almost left town four months ago. Next.

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