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08-07-2013, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewbackatu View Post
There is a propensity around here to throw around the term "elite" like it was confetti. Now hear this; there are no elite defensemen or team defenses in the NHL today.
The Rangers have a very good defense; perhaps a top 5-8 in the league but no way it's "elite" in any way, shape or form!
Elite is a relative term, and always will be. There will always be elite players and elite groups, because they are defined by their contemporaries, not by some abstract ideal of the term.

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Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
He said excluding offense. Letang and Karlsson are not only not amazing in their own zone, they are soft as tissue paper.

They are great defensemen because of their rush capabilities and skating.
If I'm ranking defensemen, or really any player, it's based on their ability to help their team win. Those players are more effective than McDonagh at that.

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