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09-21-2013, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sorinth View Post
If points are what matter then Markov should be a shoe-in because he's top-3 in scoring for defenceman. And he did that in low scoring eras on terrible teams which makes it even more impressive.

People talk about cheapening what it means if someone like Koivu makes it. Personally I think having some formula based on points multiplied by cup rings would cheapen it way more. You retire a players number because of what they meant to the team and it's fans. Koivu was the heart and soul of the team for 10+ years. For Markov even though he put up all those points he never had that same kind of emotional connection with the fans.
Koivu was just not good enough. Top-10 scoring? Useless. All the guys that made it were amongst top at their position is n the league.l, with the notable exception of Gainey. Who is the best defensive winger of all time according to many people and who won the CS.

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