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09-21-2013, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Neither one has any business being in a discussion about jersey retirements.

I couldn't care less if Koivu was the heart and soul of bad teams for over a decade. Just makes him the best of a bad lot. As for Markov, he had a few really great years but he's not an exceptional talent. No awards of any kind for either player. No cups (not even a visit to the finals), neither are anywhere close to HOF players... why are we even talking about these guys?

No. Just no.
So what any player that scores x points, wins y trophies, and z stanley cups should get retired?

You win a stanley cup as a team, many great players never won the cup and many lesser players have. I guess if you were LA you'd chose to retire Stanley Cup champion Drewiskie over Gretzky since Drewiskie did what the great one couldn't win a cup in L.A.

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