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09-30-2013, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 View Post
Remind me again when Nieds injury time starts in your eyes?
As if I have to look this up so I can cut and paste it for you again (all available on TSN's player pages, for your future reference):

Knee injury January 2001.
Knee surgery February 2001.
Concussion May 2001.
Back injury October 2001.
Back injury November 2001.
Pinched neck nerve February 2002.

Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 View Post
Ftorek/Robinson covers from 98/99 until 51 games into 01/02 so are you arguing a window of what? Is it even 2 full seasons before his Injury time starts or what?
That has to be the Window you're cherry picking because it sure as hell isn't including Leetch's 00/01 season.

I mean you attempted to dress it up real nice and make it sound better but here's the reality of those 2 seasons.
Niedermayer was 15th in raw points and 14th in PpG.
Turns out I used 3 full seasons instead of just the obvious 2 50-pointers, so not just the 2 years of Ftorek. And in over those three years, he was 8th in points. I really should have used all of the Devils' consecutive 100 point seasons if I was tying him into their success, and he was 3 points (in 1 fewer game) behind 10th place scoring Pronger over those 4 years ('96/97-'99/00). Of course I don't count '00/01, as he only had part of October plus November and December unaffected by injury. And mind you I believe I a quote I provided suggests that he was first encouraged to become more "offensively creative" around '95/96. No more than two years later, we were seeing the transformation.

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