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10-01-2013, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Agnostic View Post
Argue all you want, his motives are imbedded in every move he makes. Even as far as the lengths he will go to get his earned money to his family, even after it's clear that his double life is over, and even after his family tells him they have no more use for him (why don't you just die!) . The 737 episode was obvious and put things into context.

I will put this another way in the form of a question, if Walt was a financially secure teacher does the story even have a beginning?

You say you can't think of anybody who could possibly hook up in the meth game and be dedicated to their family, that's a big judgement on your part. I would argue that people who find themselves dying of cancer rarely get into the meth game for thrills and adrenaline. That's what skydiving and Bucket -Lists are for.

In any case I think it's up to the viewer to decide the value of Walt's life and to judge him on his motives. I don't see him as a psychopath.
Agree completely (as we seem to have from the beginning). None of us (I hope) have been in the position of scrambling to make a mark before dying of a fatal disease. The cancer, the fortuitous drive-by with Hank where he first sees Jesse, the decision to cook meth as the way to make lots of quick cash, the psychopath dealers who are always one step away from killing him -- it's all a very contrived way to kick the show into gear and shove Walt down a path where his morality battles his ego and his survival instincts. As you said, if Walt hadn't been ground down so deeply by life before the cancer, he'd have very little motivation to climb up so high to compensate. The show would have no beginning.

Geez, if he'd been Canadian, the doctor would've told him he had cancer and that his free Medicare treatment starts next week. The end.

Good-guy Walt had no chance to thrive, and there was no show if he had. But good-guy Walt still hung on, even while Heisenberg's massive ego turned him into a raging egomaniac in the throes of total denial. I don't consider pride and ego to be 'evil', though the actions done in their names often are. Walt did some seriously evil stuff, but I maintain it's too easy to call him 'evil'. That simple description ignores all the conflict that fuelled Walter White through five seasons. If we acknowledge Walt's evil side, we also have to acknowledge his regret, his multiple attempts to save Jesse, his desperate stab at saving Hank, his final gambit to provide for his son, etc. Walt was that human side as much as he was his evil side. Anyone who doesn't get that has missed the great depth of this character and has, I think, missed the real point of this great series. There's nothing more interesting than a flawed character struggling with their flaws. Walt's flaws were huge and his struggle epic. That can only happen when the opposing sides of good and bad are balanced. If Walt was simply 'evil', there would have been no struggle, no battle, no drama, no interest.

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