Niedermayer vs Chara
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10-03-2013, 05:44 PM
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Yeah that's usually how the Hockey News did it. Brian Boucher after the 2000 season was ranked higher than Patrick Roy (who by his standards I guess had an off year and then didn't win the Cup). This was the year Boucher took the Flyers to within a game of the final. Strange list.
But even despite the weird selections the Hockey News made, you can clearly see that even their had him rated a lot lower than he was in the Norris and post Norris years. Not sure I could find room for him in the top 10 before 2003, but the times he was 8th or 9th on those lists at least explain that he wasn't the cream of the crop at the time.
Yup, the "future projections" notion of those rankings makes a lot more sense.
On an unrelated note, of all the metrics used to determine a player's standing in the eyes of fans and the hockey community at a given point in time, one that definitely is not gospel and should be taken with several LARGE grains of salt, but one that I find interesting and fun nonetheless, is how players are rated in video games. Flawed, of course, so I'm not putting a lot of weight on it, but interesting at the very least.
EA Sports NHL 2001:
Rob Blake (93), Desjardins (91), Lidstrom (94), Kenny Jonsson (87), Hamrlik (87), Scott Stevens (93), Bourque (93), Hatcher (90), MacInnis (88), Pronger (97), Chelios (90), Leetch (86), and potentially a couple that I'm missing who were rated very highly.
Niedermayer was an 85...comparables were Numminen (85), Foote (84), Ohlund (85), Zubov (85), Redden (85), Jay McKee (84).
Again...and I reiterate, because I know people are going to jump down my throat for posting thing...I'm NOT using this as a strong component of my argument that Niedermayer was not in the upper-echelon of defenseman during that time period. We all know how ridiculously flawed and subjective video game ratings can be. I'm just posting it because I find it interesting, though I think it still has a smidgen of credence and maybe sheds a little bit of light on the discussion.
And just for fun...after his 30ish regular season games (sub 2.00 GAA if I remember correctly), and his great postseason in 2000, Boucher was rated a
in that game. Mike Richter, as a comparable US goalie, was an 81.
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