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01-16-2004, 09:36 AM
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To: The Messenger, good point. I've dealt with a few conspiricy theory Leaf fans and others on the opposite, so consider my last post directed at the conspiricy theorists.

About the "whiners", from an outsiders view it seems to stem from Pat Quinn. He's done some serious whining in the past and had referees call games based on what he has whined about. It's gamesmanship, in general, but he is a big whiner all season long and it has affected the players as well I think. There is a lot of talent on that team but players who come there get on the bandwagon of blame the outside forces instead of facing up to it ourselves.

I don't have any inside info to back that up, it's just a theory based on things I've seen and read. I have nothing against the team, players, or fans (in general) but there is a pervasive "woe is me" attitude.