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10-11-2013, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kriss E View Post

I think that's ridiculous. Ray Bourque was one of the best Dman in the history of NHL and still couldn't lead his team to the cup. He needed to be traded to an all-star team with so many future HoFs to win it.

It's very unfair to say PK isn't the best until he wins a cup. Not one player wins a cup, a team wins a Cup.
It is not ridiculous.

Say the name Marcel Dionne. What comes to mind? Fifth all time in the NHL for points. Substitute Dionne's name for Subban and what would you have? People back then talking about how Dionne was the best forward in the NHL.

But what is Dionne remembered for? Fifth all time points scorer? No. He is remembered for being at the top of the list of talented NHL players who did not win a Cup.

Same for Mats Sundin. One of the best players in his what.

It matters more than you are willing to admit.

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