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10-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Big Phil
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It will be hard for Toews to ever hit that level. He has more offensive talent than Carboneau did and that matters a great deal because Carboneau was able to focus pretty much solely on defense, while Toews can't. Carboneau is the winner here.

On an all-time list who trumps him defensively? Gainey, Clarke, Keon, Ramsey perhaps? Just throwing some names out there.

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