What did people think of Christian Dube when he was 16?
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10-25-2013, 01:50 AM
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When he was drafted, Christian Dube was actually measured at 5'11'', 170 lbs.
Briefly: [FINAL Edition 1]
The Ottawa Citizen [Ottawa, Ont] 20 Sep 1995: C.3.
NEW YORK -- The New York Rangers have returned top draft pick Christian Dube to his Canadian junior team, the Sherbrooke Faucons of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. Dube, a 5-foot-11, 170-pound center, was Sherbrooke's second-leading scorer during the 1994-95 season with 36 goals and 65 assists. The second-round selection didn't appear in the Rangers pre-season opener against the New Jersey Devils on Monday night. He was among 17 players that didn't make the team roster.
He was named the CHL Rookie of the Month for his performance in February 1994:
MAJOR JUNIOR: Rivers CHL player of month: [Final Edition]
The Ottawa Citizen [Ottawa, Ont] 09 Mar 1994: F3.
Christian Dube of the Sherbrooke Faucons, who had seven goals and eight assists in 10 games in February, was named rookie of the month.
The 16-year-old Quebec City native currently is second in club scoring with 30 goals and 39 assists in 67 games for the Faucons, second in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League's Frank Dilio Division.
In these two articles, he is mentioned last on the list of notable camp invitees to the Canadian World Junior team, both for the 1995 team and the 1996 team. Read what you will into that:
Rusedski in form on grass: [FINAL Edition]
The Gazette [Montreal, Que] 16 June 1994: F2.
Six players from Quebec are among the 20 players named to Canada's Under-18 hockey team that will compete at the Copa Mexico tournament, which runs from Aug. 2-7 in Mexico City.
Quebec players on the team are goalie Jean-Sebastien Giguere of Blainville, defencemen Jason Doig of Dollard des Ormeaux and Louis- Philippe Sevigny of Trois Rivieres and forwards Daniel Briere of Gatineau, Xavier Delisle of Sillery and
Christian Dube of Sherbrooke.
10 Quebecers invited to junior camp: [FINAL Edition]
The Gazette [Montreal, Que] 20 June 1995: B.7.
The associations announced the 42-player roster for the team's evaluation camp in Montreal from August 12 to 18. There are 10 Quebec players in the group. The world junior championships are in Boston from Dec. 26 to Jan. 4, 1996.
The list, including eight first-round picks from the 1994 NHL entry draft, is made up of 10 players from the QMJHL, 13 from the OHL, 18 from the WHL and one from the Central Collegiate Hockey Association in the United States.
There are eight returning players from the 1995 world championship team, including goalie Dan Cloutier; defencemen Chad Allan, Ed Jovanovski (1st pick 1994, Florida), Nolan Baumgartner (10th, Washington), and Wade Redden; and forwards Jeff O'Neill (5th, Hartford), Ryan Smyth (6th, Edmonton) and Jason Botterill.
The Quebec players include three from the Beauport Harfangs, Martin Biron, Christian Laflamme and Jean-Yves Leroux. Baniel Briere and Denis Gauthier of Drummonville, Daniel Goneau of Granby, Jose Theodore of Hull, Jason Doig of College Francais, and Mathieu Dandenault and
Christian Dube of Sherbrooke also received invitations.
In the December 1994 NHL Central Scouting Bureau ranking, Dube was ranked third on their list of top QMJHL skater prospects:
NHL Central Scouting Bureau rankings: [SA2 Edition]
Toronto Star [Toronto, Ont] 17 Dec 1994: D2.
Skaters: 1. Jason Doig (Laval); 2. Christian Laflamme (Beauport);
3. Christian Dube (Sherbrooke)
; 4. Donald MacLean (Beauport); 5. Marc Chouinard (Beauport); 6. Denis Gauthier Jr. (Drummondville); 7. Philippe Audet (Granby); 8. Georges Laraque (St-Jean); 9. Radoslav Suchy (Sherbrooke); 10. Mathieu Sunderland (Drummondville)
Goaltenders: 1. Martin Biron (Beauport); 2. Jean-Sebastien Giguere (Halifax); 3. Sebastien Charpientier (Laval); 4. Jean- Sebastien Aubin (Sherbrooke); 5. David Arsenault (St-Hyacinthe).
Skaters: 1. Bryan Berard (Detroit); 2. Chad Kilger (Kingston); 3. Jeff Ware (Oshawa); 4. Brian Wesenberg (Guelph); 5. Mike Martin (Windsor); 6. Sean Brown (Belleville); 7. Jeff Ambrosio (Belleville); 8. Chris VanDyk (Windsor); 9. Kevin Bolibruck (Peterborough); 10. Dwayne Hay (Guelph)
Goaltenders: 1. Scott Roche (North Bay); 2. Zac Bierk (Peterborough); 3. Kory Cooper (Belleville); 4. Ryan Penney (Niagara Falls); 5. David Belitski (Kitchener).
Skaters: 1. Wade Redden (Brandon); 2. Brad Church (Prince Albert); 3. Steve Kelly (Prince Albert); 4. Daymond Langkow (Tri City); 5. Terry Ryan (Tri-City); 6. Shane Doan (Kamloops); 7. Shane Willis (Prince Albert); 8. Darryl LaPlante (Moose Jaw); 9. Mike McBain (Red Deer); 10. Chad Wilchinski (Regina)
Goaltenders: 1. Aaron MacDonald (Swift Current); 2. Doug Bonner (Seattle); 3. Paxton Scafer (Medicine Hat); 4. Tyler Love (Moose Jaw); 5. Scott Tollestrup (Lethbridge).
The final Central Scouting list, however, positioned Dube at #21 overall:
Rink of Dreams; A sellout, more than 15,000 people, will view the drama -- dreams fulfilled, dreams dashed; NHL DRAFT DAY AT THE EDMONTON COLISEUM; 1995 NHL ENTRY DRAFT, D-DAY IN EDMONTON: [FINAL Edition]
Edmonton Journal [Edmonton, Alta] 08 July 1995: G.8.
CENTRAL SCOUTING LIST
PLAYER; LEAGUE; JUNIOR TEAM
1. Bryan Berard; OHL; Detroit
2. Wade Redden; WHL; Brandon
3. Chad Kilger; OHL; Kingston
4. Daymond Langdow; WHL; Tri-City
5. Steve Kelly; WHL; Prince Albert
6. Kyle McLaren; WHL; Tacoma
7. Shane Doan; WHL; Kamloops
8. Terry Ryan; WHL; Tri-City
9. Jay McKee; OHL; Niagara Falls
10. Petr Sykora; IHL; Detroit
11. Brad Church; WHL; Prince Albert
12. Marc Chouinard; QMJHL; Beauport
14. Denis Gauthier Jr.; QMJHL; Drummondville
15. Christian Laflamme; QMJHL; Beauport
16. Jason Doig; QMJHL; Laval
20. Donald MacLean; QMJHL; Beauport
21. Christian Dube; QMJHL; Sherbrooke
24. Jarome Iginla; WHL; Kamloops
Of course, he ended up being drafted 39th overall in the 1995 NHL Entry Draft. Upon returning to the QMJHL after being drafted, he had a dominant season in which he was named the CHL's top player:
Dube surprise choice Edges out Iginla as Canada's top junior
The Globe and Mail [Toronto, Ont] 14 May 1996: C.12.
Dube surprise choice Edges out Iginla as Canada's top junior
Tuesday, May 14, 1996
PETERBOROUGH, Ont. -- Canadian Press PETERBOROUGH, Ont. Christian Dube of the Sherbrooke Faucons was named Canada's junior hockey player of the year yesterday in a surprise selection at the Canadian Hockey League awards.
Dube beat out his more celebrated teammate from Canada's 1995 world junior championship team, Jarome Iginla of the Kamloops Blazers, along with Alyn McCauley of the Ottawa 67s.
Dube, a Sherbrooke native who was the New York Rangers' first pick, 39th overall, in the 1995 NHL entry draft, scored 52 goals and added 93 assists for the Faucons this season.
The 19-year-old was also a key member of Canada's world junior team, which won a fourth consecutive world title in the Boston-area tournament this January.
Defenceman Joe Thornton, 16, of the Soo Greyhounds was named the CHL's top rookie, beating out defenceman Chris Phillips of the Prince Albert Raiders, who ironically was named the top draft prospect in this year's crop of NHL-eligible players.
It's difficult to determine why Dube dropped to 39th overall. He was ranked 21st overall by Central Scouting just prior to the 1995 NHL Entry Draft, so he wasn't exactly seen as one of the best players available; he was projected to be a mid-to-late first round pick, and sometimes players ranked around those positions just drop to the second round unexpectedly. There seemed to be an overall lack of confidence in the QMJHL's talent pool, however.
Considering Jason Doig and Christian Laflamme, the two top QMJHL prospects at the midway point, also dropped, I think it indicates some uncertainty about players from the QMJHL that year as well in comparison with players from the other leagues at the time. The first
from the QMJHL to be drafted in 1995 was Denis Gauthier at 20th overall. The second-highest QMJHL skater selected in the draft that year was Georges Laraque at 31st overall. Even Marc Chouinard, ranked 12th on the final Central Scouting list, fell to the second round -- 32nd overall.
Here's the final draft list from the 1995 NHL Entry Draft:
"10 Quebecers Invited to Junior Camp." The Gazette: 0. Jun 20 1995. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
"Briefly." The Ottawa Citizen: 0. Sep 20 1995. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
"Dube Surprise Choice Edges Out Iginla as Canada's Top Junior." The Globe and Mail: 0. May 14 1996. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
"MAJOR JUNIOR: Rivers CHL Player of Month." The Ottawa Citizen: 0. Mar 09 1994. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
"NHL Central Scouting Bureau Rankings." Toronto Star: 0. Dec 17 1994. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
"Rink of Dreams; A Sellout, More than 15,000 People, Will View the Drama -- Dreams Fulfilled, Dreams Dashed; NHL DRAFT DAY AT THE EDMONTON COLISEUM; 1995 NHL ENTRY DRAFT, D-DAY IN EDMONTON." Edmonton Journal: 0. Jul 08 1995. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
"Rusedski in Form on Grass." The Gazette: 0. Jun 16 1994. ProQuest. Web. 25 Oct. 2013 .
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