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10-29-2013, 07:00 PM
Can't Beat Him
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Originally Posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
Get off the internet for a 2.5 hour block of time, and watch a game.

Holy ****, you think it's irrational to be down on this "team"? Seriously, have you watched a game? A period? A shift?

Explain it. It's ****ing right in front of you. It's the team's play. It's literally the most common denominator already. Back over the offseason when we fired torts, back when we made the nash trade, back then I explained why I thought the team was going to be worse. Well, that's all done the product is here and it's right in front of you for consumption if you ever decide to open your eyes or hell just look at the damn standings, look at our NHL worst goal differential.

This idea that the default opinion is that this is a good hockey team, and the idea that it will be bad has to be proven is ass ****ing backwards. By any objective standard this hasn't just been a bad but a challenger for the worst hockey team in the league.

Injuries happen. Maybe the fact that we gutted out depth for a now concussion-prone kitty cat wasn't such a good move after all. Don't put all your eggs on one basket, and all that. And don't ****ing kid yourself, we looked like excrement before he left the lineup. And he personally looked like excrement before he left the lineup dating back to the playoffs. And this team looked like crap ever since torts walked out the door, preseason wasn't just ugly on a record basis but the play reflected it too.

All you apologists have to get over yourselves. You were dead wrong when you liked the Nash trade. You were dead wrong when you wanted Torts gone. Because you got what you wanted we suck now. Deal with it.
Had we not done the Nash trade, would we be better off right now? Say Gaborik was hurt along with Callahan and Hagelin. Would Anisimov and Dubinsky make a huge difference? Keeping in mind we'd be without Brassard. I'm not sure we'd be any better off. Not by any significant margin, anyway.

Would Torts make a difference? Who knows. We had some pretty putrid stretches under his watch as well.

I understand your points and certainly the sentiment. I can't say you're wrong, though I can't say you're right, either.

I think if anything has set the team back, it's the constant roster turnover. Not one or two particular moves.

Still thinking this team turns it around. I could be wrong and you could be 100 percent correct. It's too early to speak in definitives though.


It's just pain.
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