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11-03-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Appleyard View Post
Voracek and Schenn don't suck defensively, they are certainly above average based on the last two years, Brayden played some pretty tough minutes last year and did ok, and Voracek is underrated in that department since coming to Philly, he is not a natural, but works very hard to make up for it defensively... but yeh, they are not Richards level, and Carter was very sound defensively, albeit very quietly so.

Simmonds is probably average around the league. But has looked poor at times this year.

I agree with the sentiment though, the defence on the front end is not as evenly rounded, although Couts does redress a lot of that... if offensive production was not a part of the Selke race he would have been in the running last year, and has been just as impressive this year.

So far this year (albeit in a small smaple, but Couts should keep it up, he has for two years now) him, Steen, Bryan Little, Bolland, Jordan Staal and Bergeron have arguably been a class above every other centre in the league defensively.

Couts has been better than Richards almost certainly in the last few years from a purely defensive standpoint.

But yeh, due to Couts having such a heavy workload and not breaking out offensively (expected with the silly workload) while him and Giroux have a similar defensive workload between them (as those two have taken Carter and Richies mins, not Schenn, Simmonds and V) as Carter and Richie had there is a loss of points compared to them... and there is more worry about line matching now.

But if the offence was producing like it has the last two years this would not be a discussion now really. That is the crux for me.
Especially Couturier. If he were doing the things he's doing on a better team he would at least be racking up assists.

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