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11-05-2013, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle McMahon View Post
Calling out Bowman as one of the problems is asinine. One of the best possession receivers in the league, and one of the best open field blockers as well. To be honest, I think he's better than Fred Stamps, and that's no shot at Stamps.

Our record with Bowman in the lineup: 15-12

Without him: 8-22

Pretty good argument that he's been our overall MVP since he arrived here.

Calling out his college career is bizarre to say the least. Oklahoma State had been irrelevant for ages until Mike Gundy showed up and rebuilt the program. They won two Bowl games with Bowman in his two years there after winning one Bowl game in the previous 17 years. He was their star receiver as they started the successful path towards what they would become with Weeden, Bryant, and Blackmon.
Right, Les Miles had nothing to do with OSU turning it around...including beatdowns of defending national champion Oklahoma in 2001 and 2002.
Remind me again how Gundy has done against Oklahoma?

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