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11-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SingnBluesOnBroadway View Post
You can't point to his youth when he's entering his fifth season and has played over 260 games in the NHL.
Yes you can, he is still 23, years old, is he not?
What was your excuse when he was 21 or 22?

Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
I think its undeniable that his value has gone down the last couple of seasons.
His last 2 seasons point production:
41 points and 21 points in 48 games.
When Staal was injured, he filled in the top 4 and top 2 capably, so how did his value "undeniably" go down again?
You guys may want to visit the MDZ thread
There is a good discussion. Don't forget to read a post there by Simon who did some actual research.

Originally Posted by smoneil View Post
Two questions:

First, since you "sky is falling" types now have a thread where you can bash Del Zotto, can you stop doing it in 98% of the rest of the threads on these boards?

Second, just something to think on: Here are the 22 year old stat lines (or, if they had a better one at an earlier age, I went with that) of some of the better offensive d-men in the league. How many would you want kicked to the curb?

Not in the NHL

By the age of 22, Del Zotto had already put up TWO seasons better than most of these guys (9-28-37 and 10-31-41), all while drastically improving his defensive game, and getting yanked around with different partners (he's had some putrid ones) and being shoved to his off side.

The corresponding names to those 22 year old stat lines, by the way, are:

Brian Campbell
Zdeno Chara
Shea Weber
Alex Edler
Dan Boyle
Mark Streit
Keith Yandle
Ryan Suter
Kris Letang
Duncan Keith

I'm not saying MDZ is going to be as good or better than these guys. He might be, he might not be. The point is that you don't panic sell on a 23 year old defenseman who has already accomplished as much as he has. Aside from the elite of the elite, most defensemen need the time to develop. Moving DZ now only ensures that we had him during "development time" and some other team gets to benefit from his prime. It'd be Marc Savard all over again.

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