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11-13-2013, 10:44 PM
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It's just crazy that our D is weak enough that we have BOTH Murray and Bouillion in the lineup right now. The fact that we actually had them paired together is just shockingly stupid.

Murray is Mr Slow but he plays physical. Love that. Bouillion is more mobile but handles the puck like a grenade. How about we get rid of both and call up Tinordi? At least the kid will be learning something as he makes his mistakes...
Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
Murray has been bad for a few years now; what we're seeing is par for the course from him. Bouillon was a decent third-pairing guy last year. Quite possible that he took a step back, given his age, but he's more likely to be the one getting pulled down.
I felt like last year Bouillion was okay on the 3rd pairing. This year though he just looks terrible.
Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
The numbers I get from are as follows: at 5-on-5, Bouillon allows 2.43 per 60 minutes of icetime and Murray, 2.88. However goals, especially on such tiny samples, are heavily affected by randomness.

Consider this instead. When Bouillon is on the ice 5-on-5, the Habs have 41.3% of the unblocked shot attempts and 39.0% of the shots -- so basically, when Bouillon is on the ice, the Habs get outshot to a tune of 6 to 4.

That's not very good, but when Murray is on the ice, the Habs have 31.8% of unblocked shot attempts and 30% of shots -- meaning that when Murray is on the ice, the Habs get outshot 7 to 3. That's worse than anyone on the team who's not in the AHL right now, and worse than both Beaulieu and Tinordi. And league-wide that's actually quite awful. There's a reason Therrien limits his icetime so sharply.
Does this take into consideration who they were paired with?

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