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Wed., Nov. 27, 2013|Flyers 2 at Lightning 4
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11-28-2013, 11:39 AM
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He has been the same for 4 years. He is an average to slightly above average defensive centre who's defence was overhyped early on due to his PK contributions. A lot of people were saying that as early as his 93 point season.
When he had 93 points he also had the most EV GA/60 of any flyers forward (he also had the most for)... part of that was playing the 2nd hardest QoC (his line) but that. In 2010-11 he had the 5th most EV GA/60 (2nd most for.)
2010-11: 62 for 46 against
2011-12: 66 for 55 against
2012-13: 60 for 71 against
Hartnells awful play is honestly the main reason that G has looked worse. G and Jake are 'producing' at a similar level to last year and what they were before.
The difference this year is that less shots are going in, (+ Hartnell) that is team wide as well, and more goals against (teamwide last year) so his offensive contributions are not making up for his average D. And the difference in the last two is the team as a whole has not been as good... and scored less goals a game
For me it is not Hartnell. G's on ice shooting % is off because the quality of chances he is creating is off. I am concerned about his decline in even strength production more than anything.
Even Strength Points
08/09 42 - 21 - 0.5 PPG - Playoffs 6 - 4 - 0.666 PPG
09/10 82 - 26 - 0.317 PPG - Playoffs 23 - 13 - 0.565 PPG
10/11 82 - 50 - 0.61 PPG - Playoffs 11 - 8 - 0.727 PPG
11/12 77 - 53 - 0.688 PPG - Playoffs 10 - 6 - 0.6 PPG
12/13 48 - 26 - 0.542 PPG
13/14 24 - 8 - 0.333 PPG
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