What needs to be done!
View Single Post
01-07-2007, 04:14 PM
Join Date: Apr 2004
Originally Posted by
Come on Ola, you know that's not true at all. The majority of people that I have seen calling for Renney's head have legitimate resons for disliking him, totally independent from the losing streak. Things like Renney's lack of holding players accountable, inability to roll lines, contradictions in the press and questionable line pairings are what have caused most to dislike Renney, and those were things that were being discussed last season and this season, well before the 7-game skid.
It's really disrespectful to the community to pigeonhole everyone who wants Renney fired as "some young kid" who "doesn't understand" and all that.
It is simply not true, and it's infuriating to see people such as yourself simply lump everyone together that disagrees with you. Seriously, stop it.
Of course there are people out there who are totally impatient and will freak at any sign of a prolonged losing streak- this is sports, for Christ's sake. It's irritating, but it's there. But don't take my opinion, which I feel is complex, well thought out and suported by fact, and try and turn it into some trivial matter because it's easier than actually going point-for-point.
To be honest, I am on purpose trying to be a little agitating, though defenitly not disrespect anyone.
But I truely belive that the impatience here in NY hurts the team. Especially if it costs Renney his job.
Tom can't really be blamed at all IMO for the amount of youth he have brought up this season. He took a shot at Dawes, but he weren't ready -- which were pretty obvious. Pöck got his shot, but his faults IMO are obvious, this team needs a D that are good in the transition game from his own end and up, Pöck aren't good at that. He often gets in trouble in thoose areas. He is very promising from the blueline and in, but his offensive game from his own end and out aren't great.
But the tempo of the game in the NHL is really high and it showed that Pöck played allot in the ECHL last year. Pöck didn't really have that "feeling" how to set up the simple transition plays. He hanged on to the puck a little bit to long at times or passed players a little bit to early, the timming wasn't really there. And I didn't got the feeling that its was nerves/preseason types of plays. Its something that will come with time, though its quit the science and a really imporant part of a defenders game.
This is from a post I made in
late september 2005
, from last seasons preseason. The link is above. Very recently Renney said the same thing, Pöck could make better decisions with the puck out of his own end. Defense aren't his only flaw.
My point is, Renney certainly feels the heat, wheter he is fired and someone new is brought in, or Renney stays, what will the conclusions be after this season? Would a new coach think? He would have heard of the critisisim on Renney for not playing the kids, he would look at Pöck and think "oh who can blame him?" and draw the conclusion that the only way to keep NY happy is to win win win and rather do it sooner then later, he would defenitly not be patience.
And thats exactly what we need, patience. I am a very critical person, I am not a big Renney lover, I would love to hear him explain his 5 on 3 formation... Though what we needs now, IMO, is exactly what we are getting. Patience. To not tie up allot of money on cheap solutions, because they often comes with allot of risks. To develop our assets, no matter how much pressure we have on us to succed we can't risk rushing a kid like Staal for example. Its not worth playing Prucha into the ground when he is struggling, we must have patience with him. Renney IMO are bringing thoose things.
I also loves Renney's game plan in a broad picture. He clearly read how the rulechange would effect the game well last season. Our style aren't perfect for a team that are in a rebuild, but the finnished product will/would be great. It would have been allot easier playing a more simple style, allot less misstakes and better results these times, but with a more simple style there are also allot less potential. This is also proof of how the prime goal with Renney are the long term, not the short term. And I doubt we would see that from a new coach.
In the end I still think that when we loose many starts looking for faults, and comes up with a bunch of stuff and critisisim that defenitly aren't proportionate, like the Isbister stroy, like Pöcks ice time, like Immonen. I never got the accountability thing, our roster is flawed, can you get a flawed defense to play well defensivly without taking penaltys? Well thats something I have never seen. From my perspective Nylander have been scratched and benched, Malik and Kaspar have been scratched. Poti were both scratched and benched, more then once. Look around the league, you won't find many vets like that beeing scratched by other coaches in a entire season.
Look at Jarkko Immonen for example, imagine if he were a UFA signing instead of a 24, gooing on 25, y/o player. I atleast would be tearing my hair if we had signed him for a 3 year 2 million deal. I just can't ever imagine Immonen becomming a good 2nd line center in this league. What would be the purpose for Renney to go out of his way to play him? Squezz out a 4th round pick from another team, would that be worth it? Atleast Pöck have some potential...
Last edited by Ola: 01-07-2007 at
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Ola