Trade Rumors/Speculation Part VIII: Trades for no reason
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12-14-2013, 12:22 PM
Join Date: Nov 2013
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I've got lot's of work to do so this has to last a coupla days:
A new bernmeister plan!
Still advocating trading Stepan for huge return, but don't see Step + getting us Jones or MacKinnon. So...
Callahan + Girardi + Boyle + Zucarello + Dorsett + Michael St. Croix
Ashton, Raymond, Franson, TML 2014 1st
Rangers eat enough extra salary, ok cap to do deal. Rangers may take on a couple of no name deadwood pieces for contract limits/defray cap.
6 for 3 + a 1st pick
Pros for Leafs: Callahan will be healthy in about a month. He should be difference maker in how far Leafs go in playoffs. Girardi will stabilize D. Boyle wins Fos, helps on D. Dorsett adds bottom 6 grit and defense. Zuc an X factor, St. Croix could make bottom 6 and has scoring track record. Gives Leafs inside track on all free agents here, espec. Girardi. Nothing is 100% but believed Girardi wants to be paid (not Doughty/Weber $$$$, but $); and if Leafs do not lowball, the fit should stick. Callahan long term another story, but if both sides do a 1 yr to start, no reason to see why he also might not be renewed. Boyle also UFA. Again, Toronto $$ as good as anyone else’s, but will depend upon what BB considers best fit, and if ridiculous numbers are thrown his way.
Cons for Leafs: Raymond is a nice role player. Franson eclipsed by Girardi. But Carter is a former 1st, and Leafs surrender their 1st this year, which will diminish in value as team improves and advances.
Conclusion: win for leafs.
Pros: Move salary FAs to be, get useful assets.
Cons: can be short term pain
Stepan + Brassard + Hagelin + MDZ + Franson + Adam Tambellini + (Tommy Hughes undrafted free agent RD w/size), Rangers 1st 2015
Myers, Ristolainen, Buffalo 2014 1st
Buf pros — Solid 1C in Stepan; additional C depth in Brassard (must be re-signed, though); Hagelin not the scoring LW sought but a clear contributor, can score with right line mates. MDZ provides some solid LD, just don’t play him opposite side, not a prob as Buf is still good with RD; Franson a wash on D but helps offensively at RD; Hughes a crapshoot but interesting project to see if he can challenge down the road; Rangers next year 1st, is a pick that won’t be as low as Buf’s this year, but still could get a decent prospect. Rights to Tambellini (no cap), he was first third pick selected last draft, is 3 years away, but a very solid, 2 way prospect. Move a big talent, but also a big salary, in Myers.
Sabres Cons: Myers looked good enough to get a big deal after his rookie season, then sucked as a soph. Seems to be rebounding a bit. Losing a big salary number, but also talent/potential. Rasmus Ristolainen, likewise, a big talent. Finally, that is a top pick. But Stepan is known commodity, so loss is undetermined potential vs. non-existent bust factor.
Rangers: pros resolve RD/RD depth. Get a great pick.
Cons: decimate much of team, but there is a reasonable gamble that these assets can be replaced from within or outside by next season, gives balance of this year to get that team of next year jump started now. That has to be weighed vs. certain guys not yet on ELC coming in now and their clock starting in mid year.
Likely Rangers lineup:
Hrivik Richards Nash
Kreider Miller Ashton
Raymond Lindberg Fast
Yogan D. Moore Asham
Next year Richards is gone. Asham I liked as a character guy but would not renew. Kristo is in the equation. Ott of Bufallo becomes FA, I think UFA, may be an option at C for right number, short term deal. Ditto Stastny, who could alternatively be LW for us. Only at reasonable short term deal. Am looking to promote from within, these combos might be best but I like D Moore’s game and if he is willing to do grunt setup for Nash and a W, why not give him a shot? Multiple possibilities. After Richards exits next season, if you entertain a tryout w/D Moore on our first line, you now create a slot for a guy like Beach on the 4th line, where he might cut it, so we could get our monies worth.
I recommend we use our picks, esp. the high Buf first, wisely. Unlikely to trade. Build.
We are waiting, likely another year, on Boo Nieves. In the meantime.
Pouilot, Pyatt – send Pyatt for conditional 7th to anyone, same with Poo
Tyler Pitlick is a second round of Oilers, still looking at G options.
Bourque, Missainen, Stacjer and 4th rounder for Pitlick and 2 deadwood, neutral cap dumps. We will find our own minor league G depth replacements.
McNeill was taken by the Hawks, I believe shortly after Miller.
He’s underwhelmed. They won’t give him away at this point. I think they would discount, not sure how much, prob want a 2nd. Think we want a cheap enough price: say 5th rounder Thomas Spelling and a 4th?
J. Moore McIlrath/Ristolainen
constructive feedback welcomed.
That buffalo trade blew my mind man, whoa.
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