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01-05-2014, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eco's bones View Post
CK will run into problems sooner or later because there's no one to back him up--other than Carcillo. Carcillo is not a major deterrent. You could see earlier Orr going after Boyle--at least somewhat because of a collision/shoving match with Phaneuf. Orr's protecting one of his team's stars--a guy who plays physical. Phaneuf can play physical--he can get involved in scrums--when push really comes to shove--Orr or McLaren will be there and Dion will be ready to go the next game because he'll never really have to answer the bell. For Kreider to become the player he needs to become he is going to have to play physical as well but there's no Orr around. Kreider does not know how to fight. He could use a few pointers from someone who does know. He can defend himself against Phaneuf but his odds are a lot worse against a Wayne Simmonds, Milan Lucic or a Tom Wilson.
I think he's smart enough to not drop them with those three but more like the types that John Moore has fought. If he gets comfortable throwing punches he'll be dangerous with that strength.

A little before my time but maybe he can become Steve Vickers lite in the fighting dept., an absolute killer that rarely fought but could really play. You guys that are a little older can probably provide more color on him.

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