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01-05-2014, 08:37 PM
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Kadri and Gagner both did that once, in a shortened season... not consistently, and dropped back down to usual/expected this year.
Gagner is a 45-50 point forward.
Kadri... who knows yet frankly, but most likely he is 50-60 player.
Simmonds hit 28 goals 2 years ago, paced for 27 last year and is pacing for 27 again this year.
Simmonds get stick around here... but we know what he is, a 2nd liner who is a PP specialist, can fight as well as most in the NHL PFP, is gritty and has his heart on his sleeve and will likely net 25-25-50~ most years.
If you take minutes in relation to +/- further and simply look at +/- per 60 and GAOn/60 Byfuglien is among the worst each year for top 4 D men in the NHL.
Amongst the ~90-110 guys who play 16+ mins EV a night in the NHL (so 20+ minutes overall, basically top 4 Dmen) Byfuglien has been in the bottom 30% in +/-/60 each of the last three years, and among the worst 10 in GAOn/60 each year as well.
2013-14: +/-/60 (72/90) GAOn/60 (84/90)
2012-13: +/-/60 (85/105) GAOn/60 (96/105)
2011-12: +/-/60 (85/109) GAOn/60 (109/109)
Basically he has been amongst the worst 10 top 4 Dmen from a defensive standpoint in the NHL... and has been that 'consistently'. And even putting up all those points he is still awful when it comes to +/-/60 compared to his peers.
His offence really does not cover his defensive liabilities... I would rather have a 35-40 point D man who can play D and play 2nd PP than a 55 point guy who does not know how to play effective defence... and is reallllllly big.
That is the reason he was never even close to being in discussion for Sochi.
Winnipeg has bad goaltending. Also Byfuglien was clearly "in the discussion" for Sochi if you read the Burnside article.
You're probably underrating him as badly as the OP is overrating him. Byfuglien holds his own in Corsi, Fenwick and shots against tough quality of competition, plus he gives you surplus value on the PP.
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