Del Zotto’s reps want meeting with Rangers GM to talk trade
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01-06-2014, 01:06 PM
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Location: Elmira NY
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Two things--first, McD has had plenty of shots wide and blocked shots as well, and he ALSO doesn't exactly have a laser from the point, so I'm not sure what you are saying there. Second--I know your last sentence there was supposed to be some sort of rhetorical, "obvious answer" question, but it shouldn't be. There is a legit question about which player is better on the PP. Production wise, BOTH players tend to produce far more at EV than they do on the PP. This year, the year of McDonagh the rock star PP QB, he has produced...wait for it...exactly the same PP production as MDZ did in a similar number of games last year. You know, the year that some people think Del Zotto was "not quite as good."
That's one way of looking at it. Another is that he has been averaging 35-40 points for his young career, and (one season of McD production notwithstanding--I want to see it repeated before I'm comfortable with him as a regular option in the offense) that is something the Rangers haven't had and had been looking for for a decade. Oh yeah, it's also not an isolated fact. MDZ is struggling. You want to know why I don't care that the coaching staff prefers other options? BECAUSE EVERY D-MAN NOT NAMED McDonagh is struggling just as much. Staal? Shell of his former self. Girardi? Scoring goals on his own team. Moore? Doesn't even look like an NHL player. Stralman? Started out well, but has been a mess for over a month now.
When a coach comes in, changes a system completely, and turns a top 5 defense--with NO player turnover--into a lousy one, you can bet your ass I'm going to question the coach instead of ONE of those regressed players. MDZ is AV's scapegoat.
Stop being so ****ing arrogant. You've been shown the history over and over again. YOU are the one who doesn't want to get it. 23 year old defensemen almost never have offense into the 50s, particularly those drafted out of the top 10 who play on poor offensive teams. You go on and on about how he hasn't improved--He's a defenseman. His defense is MILES better than it was his rookie year.
Finally, stop being so condescending while you work on that whole arrogance thing. It's not about being "in love with players"--it's about wanting what's best for this team to win. I've been one of the loudest supporters for MDZ. Take a look at the poll. I haven't voted. While I think the problems MDZ (and the rest of the D) has had can be directly attributed to AV's idiotic man to man system, I also wonder whether the relationship between player and team can be reconciled. If MDZ doesn't want to be here, and his reps have made that clear, then he needs to be moved ASAP. If MDZ would be able to bring back pieces that would be a clear upgrade (IE- Not bottom 6 players, over the hill players or the other crap that's been proposed), then I would be thrilled.
But please, continue ranting about how some of us are "in love" with a player and mocking said player right out of town. Many of the user names on both sides are exactly the same as they were during the Dubinsky debates, and that worked so wonderfully for the team when that went down, didn't it?
I can tell you this--I don't want to give Del Zotto a $2.9 mil qualifying offer this summer and possibly have to pad that because of negotiations and/or arbitration. He hasn't earned the raise--his play along with the current coaching staff's lack of confidence in him makes that almost automatically a bad contract and his so-called value isn't going to be any better next year than it is this year if things continue as they are currently. This idea that AV needs to play him is nonsense. A coach plays what he thinks is his best lineup whether you or I or anyone else think otherwise.
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