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01-07-2014, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DecadesofFutility View Post
I beg to differ. Yandle would have helped more than Streit has to move the puck out of the defensive zone.
Looking at this logically. Offensively ---
Yandle>Streit. Streit> L. Schenn. Therefore Yandle> L. Shenn.

Flyers did not need a shutdown defenseman, they had 2 defensive defensemen.
All they just needed the defensive defenseman that they had to be healthy again and play better.
Grossman and Coburn were fine as defensive defenseman, IMHO.
The problem is that we had no PMD to move the puck out of the zone.

I would have preferred they make that trade for Yandle even with a heathy Mezzaros.
Yandle, I saw as a replacement for Timonen.
If they acquired Yandle, Mez or Coburn could be traded to make room.

Mezzaros and/or Coburn: I never saw them as possibly developing into a #1 PMD.
They just did not realize that Mez was brittle, and Coburn is not the answer.
Coburn and Mezaros were always overpaid 2nd or 3rd line defensemen.
They were FA bandaids for a team that fails to develop defensive talent.

The Flyers had no need to trade top 1st round picks for a defensive defenseman.
A defensive defenseman like Grossman is usually available for a 2nd round pick.
Only time you trade a JVR for defense its for a possible #1, or an established #1 like Weber.
IMHO, Luke showed nothing in Toronto that made me think he was a possible #1 defenseman.

What the Flyers needed was another good offensive defenseman.
Yandle was available for JVR, that was the trade that should have gone down, no question.
That wasn't the prevailing opinion at all. The prevailing opinion was that the Flyers needed to 1) fundamentally redesign their the time it relied on homerun breakout passes through the neutral zone and other teams had keyed in on that; most of the problem with the breakout came from a complete lack of support from the forward group...and 2) get as much defensive help for Bryz as possible...he was expected to be here for a long time and had shown he needed as many defensive babysitters as possible.

As usual, you're using a lot of hindsight.

Also, Yandle should never have been seen at any point as a Timonen replacement. He's just not good defensively even though he's sheltered.

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