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01-12-2014, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by glenngineer View Post
Are Hornqvist or Hartnell guys that took over games, carried teams, made plays by themselves to get a goal? They're both very good players but they are not great players, certainly not elite. Have either of them scored over 60 for us in a season? No. Patrick Sharp is a perfect example of a great top 6 player. Not elite but as solid as they come. Mike Richards and Jeff Carter are another two that are great top 6 players. The fact that you can only come up with Hornqvist and Hartnell as your examples is pretty weak for a team that's been around 15 years any way you look at it.
You make the claim we don't develop top six players, then use top three criteria. Most full seasons see fewer than 60 NHL players finish with 60 points ... an average of less than two per team. Mid to upper 40 point scoring gets a player into the top 120 in an average season (four per team) ... a range where even Legwand and Erat routinely reside(d) along with Hartnell (as a Pred), Radulov, Hornqvist, quite possibly Smith this year.

So do you want to talk elite, top 60 in the league, or top 6? They are three very distinct groups. Or are you going to continue to ask about top 6 then redefine the term repeatedly?

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