Round 2, Vote 1 (HFNYR Top NYR Wingers All-Time)
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01-15-2014, 10:56 PM
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: NY, NY
One factor that carries weight with me is when a Rangers player sets a Rangers record. Doing something that hasn’t been done before in the history of the franchise, like having the most goals, assists or points whether in a season or a Ranger career, is a major accomplishment and I think those players deserve the recognition. It's like when people give the edge to a player who helped win a Cup over a player who didn't - the accomplishment is indisputable. That’s why Rod Gilbert is in my Top 3 with his Ranger-leading career point total. It’s also why I have Graves and Jagr rated higher than most seem to. I had Graves at #4 and Jagr at #5 in my initial Top 20. I’m not sure if I’m going to keep them there but I think there are justifications for both - especially Graves.
I think it's easy to get caught up in the “class act” and “great character” stuff when it comes to Gravey - and he has all of those good qualities in spades - but I think sometimes, that stuff overshadows how great a player he was.
Did you know that among Ranger wingers:
Graves is the #2 leading goal scorer with 280 goals.
He is #5 in career points with 507.
He is #7 in career assists with 227.
Graves was very productive in the playoffs as well. He had 10 goals and 17 points in the 23 game Stanley Cup run. He also had 5 goals and 8 points in 10 games in 91-92; 8 points in 10 games in 94-95; and 7 goals in 10 games in 95-96.
He set the Ranger goal scoring record at 52, which was only broken by Jagr...but he wasn't a one-trick pony. He had 3 other seasons with over 30 goals and 4 others with over 20. Those seasons result in an average of 32 goals over 8 seasons. That's an impressive total.
And all the while Graves played a diligent defensive game, and a physical style, and he dropped the gloves when necessary, usually in defense of a teammate, and I can't remember anyone ever talking about Graves not putting in the effort.
#9 had 9 seasons where he was one of the best power forwards in the game. He might be the best power forward winger in Rangers history.
MAJOR NHL AWARDS/ACHIEVEMENTS WITH RANGERS
Masterton Trophy — 2000-01
King Clancy Memorial Trophy (Community Service) — 1993-94
NHL Second All-Star Team — 1993-94
NHL All-Star Game — 1994
RANGERS TEAM AWARDS
Rangers MVP — 1992-93, 1993-94
Players` Player Award — 1991-92, 1992-93, 1994-95, 1998-99
Boucher Trophy (Most Popular) — 1993-94
Steven McDonald Extra Effort Award — 1991-92, 1992-93, 1993-94, 1998-99, 1999-00
Rangers Fan Club Ceil Saidel Award (Dedication) — 1994-95 (inaugural winner), 1995-96 (co-winner), 1996-97, 1997-98, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01
Rangers Good Guy Award — 1992-93
"Crumb Bum" Award (Community Service) — 1992-93
RANGERS TEAM LEADER
**Most goals — 1993-94, 1994-95, 1997-98 (tie), 1998-99
(I'll admit, I did not remember he led the team in goal-scoring that many times.)
Most playoff goals — 1996
I think Graves would have helped any team he was on in any era.
His number is rightfully retired by the Rangers.
He's in my Top 5 of all-time Ranger wingers.
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