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01-21-2014, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OgbertTheNerd View Post
"Only" 60 points? I'll gladly take 60 points.

As for playing through pain/injury, there's no doubting that many players play through injury. I don't think it's far fetched to say Vinny's still not fully healthy.
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Originally Posted by Appleyard View Post
Yeh, 60 points is ~50-60th best in the NHL over a full season.
For a guy that can't be a two-way presence, can't PK, and apparently can't win face-offs and has had trouble staying healthy in his mid 30's 60 points just doesn't cut it. That's essentially Danny Briere in his later years with us but moderately better point production and we haven't seen Lecavalier in the playoffs yet. Maybe this year or even next year they can make it work somewhat, but that contract isn't good unless he improves.

Lecavalier also just logistically doesn't fit into this roster because of the center issue. It's already creating problems and it's not like any of our centers are leaving any time soon most likely.

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Originally Posted by Curufinwe View Post
He was bought out due to his huge cap hit and because the contract went on till he was 40.

And these are his faceoff percentages since the injury. So he obviously still winning his fair share of face offs, even with his back issues.

50
100
40
100
33.3
33.3
50
87.5

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id...32014&view=log
His last four seasons (including this one) in face-off percentage:

50.9
47.8
54.4
46.4

He's probably a tiny bit better then he's doing so far, but that's not a far cry from how he's done the last few seasons. He's not a good face-off player, there's no denying that. Reminds me of people getting the idea that Talbot could take face-offs for some reason.

The best face-off guys in the league can usually muster percentages in the upper 50's to low 60's while taking a high number of draws in a season. Lecavalier has consistently been poor to mediocre/average in the dot the last four seasons if we're including this one.

Like I was trying to allude to earlier, he was still a 60 P guy for Tampa too. They did buy him out because his cap hit was a lot higher, but it's also because he provides nothing outside of scoring as long as he can overcome his health issues.

He was signed in Tampa until he was 40, he's signed here until he's like 38 so in that respect there's not much difference here.

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