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01-31-2014, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hockey Outsider View Post
Howe is clearly the best of these five players and I'm surprised he wasn't moved into the "freak of nature" group with Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr. He may very well be the worst offensive talent out of those four, but he's closer to them than he is to the other mortals.
I'm in the camp that views Orr as having the greatest overall peak ever, but I don't understand why everybody in this thread keeps ranking Orr above Howe for offense? Orr led the league in points twice, Howe six times. Orr led the league in PPG once, Howe seven times. Howe led the league in goals five times, Orr was never even top 5. How is that even comparable?

Frankly, I haven't really seen the case made for Orr over Jagr either, unless you believe that Orr's offensive peak was so incredibly high compared to Jagr that it would outweigh Jagr's longevity advantage. I'd rank them pretty close.

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