Where does Jaromir Jagr rank purely offensively?
View Single Post
01-31-2014, 03:14 PM
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Triangle
Originally Posted by
Jagr's years as a top end scorer isn't any longer than Mario's though, he was just healthier and has more ok years tacked on. I don't think anyone can make a reasonable argument when that's the case. It's not the same as Howe vs. Lemieux, where Howe's peak is comparable, and while he didn't have Lemieux's prime at that level, he was a top scorer for twice as long. Or the Potvin vs. Lidstrom argument, where Lidstrom was a bit below at his best, but kept that up for far longer. The only way I could see it is if Jagr played at 94-01 levels for a 15 plus year period.
Putting their adjusted seasons side-by-side:
Lemieux was about 10 points better per year at their respective 5-year peaks. They were about even (separated by 5 points or less) for their next 5 best years. Then there are 10 years where Jagr was producing anywhere from 7 to 61 more points per season.
And keep in mind that Jagr lost a full season to labor strife, plus 3 more to overseas play. The longevity difference between them really is huge when you start taking fragmentary seasons and missed seasons into account (Jagr having 7 more seasons of active play to date, 9 seasons of 81+ GP compared to Mario's 0, 14 seasons of 70+GP compared to Mario's 6, etc...).
I don't think it's Potvin vs Lidstrom, more like Orr vs Lidstrom. Very few people would take Lidstrom in that comparison, but there are a few out there who would and they
do have a rational reason
to justify that choice.
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by tarheelhockey