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03-06-2007, 01:37 PM
But y u mad?
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Originally Posted by pld459666 View Post
injured or not, Hossa slides back to the 3rd or 4th line with Straka back. Hossa has been scoring because of who he's been playing with.

As for Straka, please take a look at his career and if you cannot see the very noticable spikes in production when on a team that also had Jagr then that's on you, but the fact is that aside from some success in Ottawa (nothing compared to when he plays on a team that also features Jagr) he's been a bum.

LA = bum
Fla = bum
NYI = bum
Ott = half a bum
Pitt = top line numbers
NYR = Top line numbers

What is the common factor that we see with his career?

Let's not pretend that he's anything more than a 3rd liner without JJ.

It's not just him either, Nylander is also a player that has been a decent 2nd line center for his career, but it's not normal for guys that are 32 years old to have career years. He's the teams de facto 1st line center because this organization's inability to acquire a legit #1
Why don't we just stick Colton Orr and Ryan Hollweg with Jagr then and they'll have 80 points?
You are missing other factors that have led to the resurgence of Nylander and Straka. Let's not forget that the new rules have allowed faster finesse players like Straka to thrive more. Also Nylander has had good numbers before, he has just had injury problems.
Also if Straka is just a third liner, why has sticking Shanahan with Jagr not proven extremely effective...Straka must be doing something right.
Or take in to consideration the definition of a third liner...Matt Cullen...he has proven ineffective with Jagr...
I will give you that Straka or Nylander would not have as high point totals without Jagr but calling Straka a third liner is just insane.

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