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05-14-2014, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus View Post
If I'm unrealistic then so is everyone else who posted the same thing I'm saying now, back in 2011, and so is every hockey expert who said the same thing back in 2011. Interestingly, hindsight has proven us right.

I have never, ever said either would/could "carry" us to a Cup. That's a strawman you inserted. They were both pieces to a puzzle, like Pronger. Remove those pieces and the puzzle isn't complete anymore.

Guess what? The same thing happened in LA. They became major pieces in a puzzle, like Quick and Doughty. If Richards isn't in LA they don't make the playoffs or win a Cup. If LA doesn't get Carter, their offense never opens up and they don't make the playoffs or win a Cup. Either of Doughty or Quick goes down, same thing happens. They were vital pieces for getting us into the playoffs in 2010, and then the non-injured one was a vital piece for getting us to the Finals.

We traded those vital pieces for unproven youth. The team took a step back. That was recognized by literally everyone looking at the situation without homerism. Reality has proven that in the end; and with the D situation, we aren't really even at the point where we can be expected to take steps forward yet.

So at the end of the day, two moves that took us further from contention in the short term in the HOPE that we can compete again in the future flat out simply are not better moves than the two that won us two Cups and defined the franchise.

Hfboards had a mixed view on the trades. Other message boards i post at with more a local flavor were elated by the trades. I think few people were able to analyze the trade at level of higher thinking that involves removing oneself from the initial emotion attached to the trade. You keep saying we took a step back but we did better the next year in the playoffs , so i disagree with that. We traded for some unknown qunatities but those unknown quantities sure proved themselves right away. I chalk that up to scouting , I feel like homer knew exactly who he wanted to acquire for those two guys and if rumors of him packaging them both to cbj in a bigger deal involving johansen well then homer was god damn Nostradamus.

Originally Posted by FlyersFan61290 View Post
I didn't read anything after that. If you don't think a concussion affects you physically/or in that context I don't know what to say.

That's ok. What can i say my concussions had no impact on my fitness level. it still effects me to this day in terms of my concentration level but that is it.

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