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All-Star Team Voting for 1930-31

Source: Wednesday, March 2, 1932; Globe & Mail, page 12

The article about the 1932 all-stars stated that, last year, Howie Morenz and Eddie Shore both received unanimous selections to the first team. Makes sense; Morenz won the Hart and Shore was a close second.

(This was the first year that year-end all-star teams existed).

All-Star Team Voting for 1931-32

Source: Wednesday, March 2, 1932; Globe & Mail, page 12

The newspaper listed the all-stars of each writer over the course of several weeks. I'm not going to go through and add all of that up myself. They do provide some aggregated data, though. There were 32 writers in total.

No players earned a unanimous spot on the all-star team. Ching Johnson (1st team Defense) earned the most votes; he was chosen by "all but two" writers and "22 times on the first team" (therefore he must have received 22 first-place votes and 8 second-place votes). Eddie Shore (1st team D) and Bill Cook (1st team RW) were selected by 29 writers; Charlie Conacher (2nd team RW) was listed on 27 ballots, Chuck Gardiner (1st team G) on 26 and Busher Jackson (1st team LW) on 18.

The newspaper notes that the closest race was between Reg "Hooley" Smith and Joe Primeau for the 2nd center position. Both earned 12 votes, but Smith had 5 first-place votes and Primeau only had 3. The newpaper also notes that Smith (described as "versatile" and "fiery") recieved 8 more votes for LW and RW. My grandfather watched Smith play when he was (much) younger; in terms of style, he sounds a lot like Messier or Trottier, though obviously not as dominant.

The newspaper noted that Howie Morenz, who finished 3rd in scoring, went on an amazing late-season streak. He was fairly low in the scoring race prior to that.

All-Star Team Voting for 1932-33

Source: Thursday, March 9, 1933; Globe & Mail, page 13

Goal: John Ross Roach 20; Charlie Gardiner 9; Tiny Thompson, Lorne Chabot, Roy Worters 1 each (total votes = 32)

Right defense: Eddie Shore 29, (Ching?) Johnson 2, King Clancy 1 (total votes = 32)

Left defense: (Ching?) Johnson 17, Hap Day 4, Bill Brydge 3, King Clancy 3, Lionel Conacher 3, Eddie Shore 2 (total votes = 32)

Centre: Frank Boucher 12, Howie Morenz 9, Reg "Hooley" Smith 4, Joe Primeau 2; 1 vote each for Marty Barry, Nels Stewart, Paul Haynes, Ebbie Goodfellow, Coonie Weiland (total votes = 32)

RW: Bill Cook 28; 1 vote for each of Ace Bailey, Baldy Northcott, Charlie Conacher and Jimmy Ward (total votes = 32)

LW: Baldy Northcott 16, Busher Jackson 7, Bun Cook 4, Marty Barry 3, Charlie Conacher 1, Aurel Joliat 1 (total votes = 32)

- All votes are accounted for
- It looks like all writers cast 1 vote for each category. I prefer the modern system with multiple votes; more, weighted votes should allow writers to better describe the level of performance from different players
- Eddie Shore won the Hart trophy. He's nearly a unanimous all-star, with 31 of a possible 32 votes
- The other Hart finalists (Cook and Roach) were the only other players to earn more than 20 of 32 votes
- They cast votes for right and left defense, but I'm not sure how they add them up. The all-stars were Shore (31) and Johnson (19) on the first team and Clancy (4) and L. Conacher (3) on the second team. But what happened to Clarence "Happy" Day? He's tied for third in total all-star voting (4) and is second in votes for left defense (4). It looks like Happy Day was more deserving of the 2nd all-star selection. He has more left defense votes, and more total votes, than L. Conacher.
- Bill Cook earned 28 of 32 RW votes. Four players were tied with 1 vote each. Charlie Conacher must have got the spot on the 2nd all-star team because he got 1 more vote as a LW.
- The newspaper noted that LW Busher Jackson had a slow start to the year while LW Baldy Northcott was very consistent. (Jackson ended up with 1 more point).

Also, while browsing through the newspaper from April 20, 1933, I read a fascinating discussion about whether Eddie Shore is the greatest defenseman in NHL history. The article notes that King Clancy, Lionel Hitchman and Ching Johnson were better defensively but that Shore was clearly better offensively and was still strong, a good shot-blocker, and a tough fighter.

The consensus was that Shore is roughly on the same level as Hod Stuart, Sprague Cleghorn, Cyclone Taylor, etc., as one of the greatest defensemen ever. Keep in mind that this was written before Shore won three more Hart trophies.

All-Star Team Voting for 1933-34

Source: Tuesday, March 20, 1934; Globe & Mail, page 11

The paper almost writes as if there are two seperate scoring races for the Canadian and American divisions. Does anybody know how balanced the NHL schedule was back in the 1930s? King Clancy leads all defensemen in scoring.

Thirty-five writers voted for the all-star teams.

Goalies: The voting is unclear. It shows that the votes are: Charlie Gardiner 28; Roy Worters 2; George Hainsworth 2; Tiny Thompson 2. (1 vote unaccounted for). It also said that Cude, Thompson and Aitkenhead challenged Worters for the second team position, but Worters won the spot by a safe margin. I don't see Cude or Aitkenhead receiving votes above. Maybe they just listed first-team votes above? Anyway, the newspaper emphasised that Gardiner won with an "overwhelming majorit[y]" and was "highly favoured".

C: Frank Boucher dominates the first-team voting. Boucher earned 24 first-team votes; Primeau has 6; Howie Morenz has 1 (4 votes unaccounted for--presumably some of these went to Hooley Smith).

In terms of the second team, Primeau earned 15 votes, Hooley Smith had 7, Marty Barry had 3 and Morenz had 2. 8 votes unaccounted for.

Note that Hooley Smith finished 3rd in voting for the centre position each of the past two years. He was also an all-star in 1932 and 1936. He's just a few votes away from being a 4-time all-star.

RW: Charlie Conacher received the most votes of any player, with 33 (of 35) selections. Bill Cook, on the second team "received scant attention". Larry Aurie and Jimmy Ward also contended for the 2nd RW spot.

LW: The vote for the LW position was very close. Busher Jackson beat Aurel Joliat 17-15 for a spot on the first team. Note that LW Aurel Joliat won the Hart Trophy and Jackson did not place in the top five. My guess? Joliat played on Montreal; the team made the playoffs despite having no other players in the top 20 in scoring. Jackson outscored Joliat in fewer games, but played on a powerhouse Toronto team that featured Charlie Conacher and Joe Primeau (1 and 2 in scoring). Jackson was arguably a better player than Joliat but it looks like Joliat was far more valuable to his team.

It says that the only other LW with more than one vote was Paul Thompson, but I don't have any more details.

Defense: Clancy and L. Conacher earned 17 first-place votes. (The article isn't always clear about distinguishing first-place, second-place and total votes).

Eddie Shore (suspended 16 games for nearly killing Ace Bailey) still earned a spot on the 2nd all-star team, narrowly beating Earl Seibert. Both players had 10 first-place votes and 8 second-place votes. Shore was given the spot on the second team because of the breakdown of left/right defense positions.

Coach: Lester Patrick earned a spot for the 4th straight year with 18 votes. Dick Irvin recieved 14, Jack Adams had 2 and Tommy Gorman also had 2.

All-Star Team Voting for 1934-35

Source: Friday, March 15, 1935; Globe & Mail, page 6

The writers use a new (and more logical) voting system this year. First place votes are worth 3 pts; second place votes are worth 1 pt. There were 33 ballots.

Busher Jacksons is the only unanimous select, with 33 votes. (But this is unclear--how many of those 33 votes were for the first team? Let's say Jackson got 20 first team and 13 second team votes; that's hardly unanimous). Charlie Conacher (32 votes) was nearly unanimous. Other disclosed vote totals are Boucher (22), Seibert (10) and Shore (18).

Lorne Chabot (8 + 7 = 31 pts) and Tiny Thompson (8 + 5 = 29 pts) were very close for the first-team goalie honours.

In the Friday, March 22, 1935 edition (page 6), Bill Cook is asked to personally select his all-time team. He chooses George Hainsworth, Eddie Shore, Ching Johnson, Frank Frederickson, Busher Jackson and Charlie Conacher. A writer criticizes the team for being too biased in favour of modern players.

A couple of days later, the front page shows that Hitler pledges 20 years of peace.

The Wednesday, April 17, 1935 (page 7) confirms what BM67 has above. Shore narrowly beats Conacher and Coulter for the Hart. They note that this was particularly impressive because Shore triumphantly returned to the NHL after being suspended for nearly killing Ace Bailey in 1934.

All-Star Team Voting for 1935-36

Source: Saturday, March 21, 1936; Globe & Mail, page 6

Centre: Hooley Smith has 11 first-team votes and 10 second-team votes. Bill Thoms earned a spot on the second team but apparently it was close between him and Marty Barry, Doc Romnes and Frank Boucher.

RW: Charlie Conacher (16 first votes, 11 second votes) beat Dillon (12 first votes, 11 second votes) for a spot on the first team. The only other contender, Larry Aurie, was far back.

LW: The newspaper talks about how Sweeney Schriner was an extremely promisng young player and was quick to adapt to the NHL. Schriner (17 first votes, 11 second votes) beats Paul Thompson (14 first votes, 10 second votes). They said that nobody else was really close.

Defense: Eddie Shore won his 3rd career Hart trophy. He earned 27 first-team votes versus 12 for Babe Seibert.

Goalies: Tiny Thompson received 30 out of 31 votes. (I think they're referring to first-place votes here; not sure). Wilf Cude recieved 1 first-place vote and either 13 or 15 second-place votes (can't see the number clearly). Mike Karakas had 10 second-team votes.

The newspaper notes that scoring dropped significantly in 1936.

All-Star Team Voting for 1936-37

Source: Friday, March 19, 1937; Globe & Mail, page 15

Finally, we get the complete voting totals again. The votes are listed separately for the first and second team. I'll list them together by position since I think it's easier to read.

This year was a ***** to assemble. I had to watch out for Seibert vs. Siebert, left D vs right D, 1st team vote vs. second team vote!

First team: Normie Smith 9, Wilf Cude 7, Tiny Thompson 6, Dave Kerr 1 (23)
Second team: Normie Smith 6, Wilf Cude 5, Tiny Thompson 5, Dave Kerr 4, Mike Karakas 2, Bill Beveridge 1 (23)

Right defense
First team: Ebbie Goodfellow 13, Earl Seibert 5, Babe Siebert 2, Cy Wentworth 2, Hap Day 1 (23)
Second team: Earl Seibert 13, Ebbie Goodfellow 5; 1 each for Ott Heller, Lionel Conacher, Red Horner, Art Coulter and ? Portland (23)

Left defense
First team: Babe Siebert 19, Lionel Conacher 2, ? McDonald 1, Earl Seibert 1 (23)
Second team: Lionel Conacher 10, 2 each for Ott Heller, Earl Seibert, Ebbie Goodfellow and Cy Wentworth; 1 each for ? Evans, Art Coulter, Red Horner, ? McDonald, ? Fowler (23)

First team: Larry Aurie 20, 1 each for Cecil Dillon, Dit Clapper and Jimmy Ward (23)
Second team: Cecil Dillon 6, Johnny Gagnon 5, Jimmy Ward 3, ? Marsh 3, Dit Clapper 2, Larry Aurie 2, Aurel Joliat 1, Herbie Lewis 1 (23)

First team: Busher Jackson 15, Sweeney Schriner 3, Herbie Lewis 3, Aurel Joliat 2 (23)
Second team: Sweeney Schriner 8, Aurel Joliat 6, Herbie Lewis 5, Busher Jackson 4 (23)

First team: Mary Barry 22, Herbie Lewis 1
Second team: Art Chapman 11, Syl Apps 5, Bill Cowley 2, 1 each for Marty Barry, Howie Morenz, Cooney Weiland, Bill Thoms and Neil Colville (23)

- My grandfather (a Maroons fan) says that Ward was a great player. Nice to see him get a few votes at RW.
- The newspaper notes that Busher Jackson received a $1,000 bonus for making the all-star team. That's around a $15,000 bonus today.
- The newspaper emphasized in the article that the first-team winners were generally elected by wide margins, which can be confirmed from the voting results

The Thursday, April 15, 1937 edition of the paper (page 19) states that Babe Siebert won the Hart by a wide margin, ahead of L. Conacher, Ebbie Goodfellow and Tiny Thompson, confirming what BM67 has.

1954- Norris trophy

Previously, we only knew that the winner of the first-ever Norris trophy was Red Kelly and the runner-up was Doug Harvey. I found some new details (Globe & Mail; Friday, April 30, 1954; page 22).

Kelly earned 112 of a possible 180 points; Doug Harvey earned 57 while Bill Gadsby (probably one of the most underrated defensemen ever) earned 38.

** Note that there is a discrepancy between what I have and what BM67 has listed. The NHL Awards and Media Guide shows that Kelly had 162 votes/points but the newspaper says that it's only 112. The newspaper and media guide agree on Harvey's 57 pts.

Voting was split into halves (on January 1, 1954). The first half votes were Kelly 76, Gadsby 28 and Harvey 22. The second half votes are not listed but one can calculate them if needed.

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