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07-20-2007, 11:26 AM
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If I had to rank them I would go:

Penguins
Rangers


Flyers
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Islanders
i'd probably go that way too... i think we're extremely volatile... could see us anywhere from 1 to 4... Devils i can't see getting the division next year, but with Marty back there they'll have a shot.

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07-20-2007, 11:35 AM
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I'd have to go with:

Pens (roughly the same team, with a few holes filled in from last season)

Devils (lost Gomez and Rafalski, but the main core is still there as is Marty B.)

Rangers and Flyers (I'm not sold on the Rangers yet, signing a bunch of guys doesn't mean a damn thing if there's no chemistry. I'm not crowning them anything yet. As far as the Flyers, they have a great young D-core and Briere is a great signing.. They could very well finish ahead of the Rangers or anyone for that matter)

Islanders (15 mil in cap space doesn't mean a damn thing of there's no one worth signing.)

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07-20-2007, 11:41 AM
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Guerin will take Blake's spot and we only had Smyth for a little bit and he didn't produce that much offense for us, Isles will be fine offensively if they get one more center & if we had a halfway decent backup like Dubie instead of Dunham (4-10-3) we could've won a game or two without DP in net so its no different than last year, everyone has Isles dead last so w.e
No Smyth, no Yashin, no Blake, no Poti, No Asham, No Kozlov, No Hill, no Zednik, no draft picks this year.

Fedotenko, Guerin, Comrie? wow impressive. Snow is a great GM.

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07-20-2007, 11:45 AM
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No Smyth, no Yashin, no Blake, no Poti, No Asham, No Kozlov, No Hill, no Zednik, no draft picks this year.

Fedotenko, Guerin, Comrie? wow impressive. Snow is a great GM.
tough to really nail Snow... as knowing what is going on within management is kinda tough up there. obviously Snow is involved, but Smith ditched that gig for a reason.

i agree that they will not be replacing what was lost easily... or at all.

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07-20-2007, 11:49 AM
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tough to really nail Snow... as knowing what is going on within management is kinda tough up there. obviously Snow is involved, but Smith ditched that gig for a reason.

i agree that they will not be replacing what was lost easily... or at all.
Well Before trading for Smyth at least ask him if he wants to sign with NYI..

NYI will rebuild for next 3-4 years and it will not be easy.

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07-20-2007, 11:57 AM
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1. Rangers
2. Penguins
3. Flyers
4. Devils
5. Isles
Exactly how I see it too with the last 2 missing the playoffs.

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07-20-2007, 12:14 PM
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Exactly how I see it too with the last 2 missing the playoffs.
I think Pittsburgh will be #1.

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07-20-2007, 12:16 PM
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Well Before trading for Smyth at least ask him if he wants to sign with NYI..

NYI will rebuild for next 3-4 years and it will not be easy.
the man was crying in his press conference... i think we all know the answer.

i have no idea what they were thinking there, it was simply dumb. however, it's difficult to know who is pulling the strings with the setup Wang has put together.

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07-20-2007, 02:15 PM
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i like that stat, that shows the Flyers were in a lot of games, and that they just came up short. I doubt we come up short as much with Timonen, Briere, Hartnell, and Smith added to this roster. That could end up being a LOT more points in the standings.
Well, they going to need about 40 more than last year.

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07-20-2007, 02:18 PM
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No Smyth, no Yashin, no Blake, no Poti, No Asham, No Kozlov, No Hill, no Zednik, no draft picks this year.

Fedotenko, Guerin, Comrie? wow impressive. Snow is a great GM.
Come on, how could you forget Sim?

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07-20-2007, 04:17 PM
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Come on, how could you forget Sim?
Jon Sim: How can just six letters sum up worthless any better?

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07-20-2007, 06:34 PM
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I think Pittsburgh will be #1.
I think experience will put Gomez, Jagr, Shanahan, Drury, Straka, and etc. will make them the top seed in the east.

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07-20-2007, 07:57 PM
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Jon Sim: How can just six letters sum up worthless any better?
I'm still laughing at whoever said he was a shoe-in to lead the preseason in goals (and hat tricks). He did manage to score 17 in '06 and 17 in '07 though. I mean, that's not terrible.

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07-20-2007, 08:24 PM
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I'm still laughing at whoever said he was a shoe-in to lead the preseason in goals (and hat tricks). He did manage to score 17 in '06 and 17 in '07 though. I mean, that's not terrible.
Twas I.

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1. Pens - And that's hard for me to swallow because I hate them a lot.
2. Rags/Flyers - It'll depend on how the teams gel.
3. Rags/Flyers
4. NJ - They lost Gomez and Rafalski and Marty is getting up there in terms of age, the devils are going to need to rest him a bit more if they want to prolong his career.
5. Islanders

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07-20-2007, 11:23 PM
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If I had to rank them I would go:

Penguins
Rangers


Flyers
Devils


Islanders
Agreed.

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07-20-2007, 11:32 PM
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1. Pittsburgh
2. Rangers
3. Flyers
4. Devils













5. Islanders

Top 3 easily make the playoffs and the Devils scratch and claw and get in on the final week.

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07-20-2007, 11:38 PM
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Right now, I'm putting the Rangers atop the division followed by Pittsburgh, Flyers, Devils and the Islanders.

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07-20-2007, 11:45 PM
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1. Pens - And that's hard for me to swallow because I hate them a lot.
2. Rags/Flyers - It'll depend on how the teams gel.
3. Rags/Flyers
4. NJ - They lost Gomez and Rafalski and Marty is getting up there in terms of age, the devils are going to need to rest him a bit more if they want to prolong his career.
5. Islanders
That's exactly how I feel. I think the Pens will take the division and the Flyers/Rangers will fight for 2 and 3. The Devils may finally have a down year. Should be great to watch

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07-25-2007, 11:12 PM
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I'm a lifelong Isles' fan but also renewed my Flyers' season tix today, so I guess this isn't trolling...

I can't believe how many people are putting the Flyers ahead of the Devils. The Devils had 107 points last year, the Flyers had 56. That's 51 points to make up. The Isles finished 36 points ahead. There have been a lot of changes, but the baseline counts for something, especially with an organization like the Devils which just seems to keep on coming up with winners. And I'll be surprised if Brent Sutter is anything but an excellent NHL coach.

Coaching and goaltending are the two most important things in hockey, and people always overlook them. They are the reasons the Isles had 92 points and made the playoffs last year when last summer they were generally picked to finish 13-15th in the conference. As someone who wants the Flyers to do well, I'm more than a little concerned about their coach (not to mention the mobility issues on D). The Flyers' goaltending is hopefully improved, but still probably only 4th best in the division, maybe with a bit of a gap after 3rd best. On the positive side, the Flyers have a mess of very good young forwards and forward prospects, and if a handful of them blossom this year the program will be accelerated.

Nylander was very good for the Rangers last year, and he made Jagr happy. As much as I like Gomez, I'd be more concerned about the Rangers if they signed only Drury, kept Nylander, and had another few million in cap space to have kept Cullen or done something else.

"No Smyth, no Yashin, no Blake, no Poti, No Asham, No Kozlov, No Hill, no Zednik". Okay, it's July 25th. Smyth, Kozlov, Zednik and, I believe, Hill weren't even on the Isles' roster last July 25th. In other words, there's not a roster lock-down. Also, Kozlov, Poti and Hill were all laughed at last year like Sim, Fedotenko, etc. are being laughed at here now. You might wonder why Kozlov, Poti and Hill had such unexpectedly good years (no steroid jokes please). Again, don't underestimate coaching. Oh, and Yashin? Yashin was addition by subtraction, big time. That was a huge millstone lifted off the team's shoulders.

It's really too early for predictions, but my hunch is when the rosters are set the division will be pretty competitive 1-5. We'll see.

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07-26-2007, 12:19 AM
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I'm a lifelong Isles' fan but also renewed my Flyers' season tix today, so I guess this isn't trolling...

I can't believe how many people are putting the Flyers ahead of the Devils. .

i give the flyers the edge but i think we will both be fighting for 3rd in the division.

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07-26-2007, 12:48 AM
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I'm a lifelong Isles' fan but also renewed my Flyers' season tix today, so I guess this isn't trolling...

I can't believe how many people are putting the Flyers ahead of the Devils. The Devils had 107 points last year, the Flyers had 56. That's 51 points to make up. The Isles finished 36 points ahead. There have been a lot of changes, but the baseline counts for something, especially with an organization like the Devils which just seems to keep on coming up with winners. And I'll be surprised if Brent Sutter is anything but an excellent NHL coach.

Coaching and goaltending are the two most important things in hockey, and people always overlook them. They are the reasons the Isles had 92 points and made the playoffs last year when last summer they were generally picked to finish 13-15th in the conference. As someone who wants the Flyers to do well, I'm more than a little concerned about their coach (not to mention the mobility issues on D). The Flyers' goaltending is hopefully improved, but still probably only 4th best in the division, maybe with a bit of a gap after 3rd best. On the positive side, the Flyers have a mess of very good young forwards and forward prospects, and if a handful of them blossom this year the program will be accelerated.

Nylander was very good for the Rangers last year, and he made Jagr happy. As much as I like Gomez, I'd be more concerned about the Rangers if they signed only Drury, kept Nylander, and had another few million in cap space to have kept Cullen or done something else.

"No Smyth, no Yashin, no Blake, no Poti, No Asham, No Kozlov, No Hill, no Zednik". Okay, it's July 25th. Smyth, Kozlov, Zednik and, I believe, Hill weren't even on the Isles' roster last July 25th. In other words, there's not a roster lock-down. Also, Kozlov, Poti and Hill were all laughed at last year like Sim, Fedotenko, etc. are being laughed at here now. You might wonder why Kozlov, Poti and Hill had such unexpectedly good years (no steroid jokes please). Again, don't underestimate coaching. Oh, and Yashin? Yashin was addition by subtraction, big time. That was a huge millstone lifted off the team's shoulders.

It's really too early for predictions, but my hunch is when the rosters are set the division will be pretty competitive 1-5. We'll see.
And what issues would those be?

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I can't believe how many people are putting the Flyers ahead of the Devils. The Devils had 107 points last year, the Flyers had 56. That's 51 points to make up. The Isles finished 36 points ahead. There have been a lot of changes, but the baseline counts for something, especially with an organization like the Devils which just seems to keep on coming up with winners. And I'll be surprised if Brent Sutter is anything but an excellent NHL coach.
Your statement completely contradicts itself. The basline counts for something? What about the Flyers baseline of reaching the playoffs for the past god knows how many year in a row prior to this one last season. The baseline for the Flyers isn't 56 points, it's a history of continuously coming up with winners.

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