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07-16-2007, 08:23 PM
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Give us a return to NHL94.....

Where crappy players got what they deserved...ratings in the 40's, 50's, and 60's.

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07-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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Give us a return to NHL94.....

Where crappy players got what they deserved...ratings in the 40's, 50's, and 60's.
I forgot which year it was, but in one game Shawn Chambers had a rating of 3.

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07-17-2007, 07:31 AM
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you guys do realize that ratings mean nothing right.....

a player with 100 intensity and 50 everything else is an 86.

so before you knock EA, know what you are talking about.
And you're saying this because... ?

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07-17-2007, 07:55 AM
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you guys do realize that ratings mean nothing right.....

a player with 100 intensity and 50 everything else is an 86.

so before you knock EA, know what you are talking about.
Well if thats the case, shouldn't the rating system be changed and improved on?

I still cant believe they call themselves realistic and not have offensive and defensive awareness stats.

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07-17-2007, 10:02 AM
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0 and 41

i have heard york is awful, but IMO he should have at least around 5-6
dude i'd put that guy on the ice just to see how funny it would be to see him like take a slapshot and end up scoring on his own net

but seriously, how would he even like be able to move with a rating of 0...i think i wanna experiment with that a little bit..

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07-17-2007, 06:16 PM
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ATL top 5:
Marian Hossa (92)
Ilya Kovalchuk (91)
Kari Lehtonen (88)
Vyacheslav Kozlov (87)
Alexei Zhitnik (85)

At least, that's what they should be.

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07-18-2007, 03:48 PM
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If Crosby isn't the highest ranked player (at either 97 or 98) the game is a joke!

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07-18-2007, 03:57 PM
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One thing is certain, Naslund will be a 92 with a perfect wristshot again. Those ratings are random. Svatos has better potential than Crosby acording to 07.

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07-18-2007, 04:09 PM
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Well everyone is overrating there teams. I have seen about 3 guys under 70 I think your all going to be pretty disappointed.

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07-18-2007, 05:11 PM
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I try a more realistic ratings for the Stars. Do the 2k games have better and more realistic ratings than the EA games ?




Modano - 90
Zubov - 88
Turco - 88
Morrow - 86
Lethinen - 85
Ribeiro - 83
Jokinen - 81
Boucher - 81
Halpern - 80
Norstrom - 79
Barnes - 78
Smith - 78
Daley - 77
Hagman - 77
Miettinen - 76
Eriksson - 75
Robidas - 74
Lundqvist - 73
Baumgartner - 71
Ott - 70
Grossman - 69
Fedoruk - 69
Pushkarev - 68
Lessard - 67
Barch - 66
Conner - 65
Petersen - 64
Winchester - 62
Polak - 62


This was hard >_<

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07-18-2007, 05:15 PM
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Hopefully finally player ratings will actually matter on break aways for exsample. Always remember in NHL01 or sumthing had a breakaway with Pavel Bure (fresh on the ice) and Tie Domi catched up to him (btw I had edited every rating in the game so Domi had around 60SP and Bure 99). Still the case is this....

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07-18-2007, 06:28 PM
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Do the 2k games have better and more realistic ratings than the EA games ?
In NHL2k7 I'd say 90+ is elite forward/defenseman/goalie, 89-80 is top six forwards/#1-4 defenseman/starting goalies or great backup goalies, 79-72 is 3rd and 4th line/3rd pairing defenseman/mediocre backup or good goalie prospect.

I've never played the games from EA so I don't know if its better but the overall ratings for players in 2k7 don't matter much. They have a separate offense and defense rating. Niklas Kronwall I remember in 2k7 was like a 78 and his offense and defense rating were both in the low 80s while there were some d-men that had overall ratings of 80+ with like 82 offense and 76 defense. The only use of the overall rating that I can see is probably determining a player's trade value. Personally I would say its pretty realistic since having great chemistry can boost some stats by up to 20 but leave stats like shot quickness/power unchanged.

Well the best rated in 2k7 I believe was Lidstrom.


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07-18-2007, 07:34 PM
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Ducks top guys if I did it would be

Niedermayer - 93
Giguere - 92
Pronger - 91
Selanne - 91
McDonald - 85
Getzlaf - 83
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08-01-2007, 11:03 AM
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My updated version of league's top rated players. Notice the lack of high-rated dmen around the league...

Only listing 87 ov (superstars).

FORWARDS:
1 Vincent LeCavalier (96)
2 Sidney Crosby (95)
3 Joe Thornton (94)
4 Jaromir Jagr (93)
5 Alexander Ovechkin (91)
6 Jarome Iginla (90)
7 Marian Hossa (90)
8 Dany Heatley (89)
9 Ilya Kovalchuk (89)
10 Daniel Alfredsson (89)
11 Henrik Zetterberg (89)
12 Pavel Datsyuk (88)
13 Joe Sakic (88)
14 Mats Sundin (88)
15 Marian Gaborik (88)
16 Patrick Marleau (88)
17 Olli Jokinen (88)
18 Jason Spezza (88)
19 Martin Havlat (87)
20 Pavol Demitra (87)
21 Patrick Elias (87)
22 Brad Richards (87)

DEFENSE:
1 Nicklas Lidstrom (95)
2 Scott Niedermayer (95)
3 Chris Pronger (94)
4 Tomas Kaberle (90)
5 Sergei Zubov (88)
6 Andrei Markov (88)
7 Zdeno Chara (88)

GOALIES:
1 Martin Brodeur (97)
2 Roberto Luongo (97)
3 Miikka Kiprusoff (95)
4 Henrik Lundqvist (95)
5 J-S Giguere (94)
6 Rick DiPietro (90)
7 Marty Turco (90)
8 Evgeny Nabokov (90)
9 Ryan Miller (89)
10 Tomas Vokoun (89)
11 Dominik Hasek (88)
12 Olaf Kolzig (88)
13 Nikolai Khabibulin (87)

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08-01-2007, 11:31 AM
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I think stats this year may be better than before. NHL07 and previous has been heavily offensively biased, now 08 looks to be much more balanced which should even stats out a bit. Ric Jackman on NHL07 was an 86 or something extortionate because of his offensive ability. He's just one name that springs to mind because even if the game only evaluated offensive ability, I still wouldn't give him an 86!! It was the same across the board, offensive defensemen had very high ratings and defensive defensemen had generally lower ratings. Don't go firing exceptions at me, this is just a general observation. Zbynek Michalek was around a 70 last year and well more deserving of an 86 than Ric Jackman.

Anyway, a few of my Buffalo guesses:

Miller 88
Thibault 72
Dennis 65

Tallinder 83
Campbell 81
Lydman 80
Spacek 77
Numminen 74
Kalinin 73
Paetsch 70
Sekera 68
Funk 62
Card 60

Vanek 87
Hecht 82
Paille 71
Peters 59
Ryan 67
MacArthur 68
Hunter 62

Connolly 83
Roy 84
Gaustad 76
Zagrapan 66

Afinogenov 86
Pominville 79
Kotalik 78
Stafford 75
Mair 71
Mancari 64
Kaleta 62

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08-01-2007, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
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My updated version of league's top rated players. Notice the lack of high-rated dmen around the league...

Only listing 87 ov (superstars).

FORWARDS:
1 Vincent LeCavalier (96)
2 Sidney Crosby (95)
3 Joe Thornton (94)
4 Jaromir Jagr (93)
5 Alexander Ovechkin (91)
6 Jarome Iginla (90)
7 Marian Hossa (90)
8 Dany Heatley (89)
9 Ilya Kovalchuk (89)
10 Daniel Alfredsson (89)
11 Henrik Zetterberg (89)
12 Pavel Datsyuk (88)
13 Joe Sakic (88)
14 Mats Sundin (88)
15 Marian Gaborik (88)
16 Patrick Marleau (88)
17 Olli Jokinen (88)
18 Jason Spezza (88)
19 Martin Havlat (87)
20 Pavol Demitra (87)
21 Patrick Elias (87)
22 Brad Richards (87)

DEFENSE:
1 Nicklas Lidstrom (95)
2 Scott Niedermayer (95)
3 Chris Pronger (94)
4 Tomas Kaberle (90)
5 Sergei Zubov (88)
6 Andrei Markov (88)
7 Zdeno Chara (88)

GOALIES:
1 Martin Brodeur (97)
2 Roberto Luongo (97)
3 Miikka Kiprusoff (95)
4 Henrik Lundqvist (95)
5 J-S Giguere (94)
6 Rick DiPietro (90)
7 Marty Turco (90)
8 Evgeny Nabokov (90)
9 Ryan Miller (89)
10 Tomas Vokoun (89)
11 Dominik Hasek (88)
12 Olaf Kolzig (88)
13 Nikolai Khabibulin (87)
Marc Savard?

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Kolzig / Khabibulin rated higher then Emery?

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Another note - if Staal is the cover athlete, there is no way he will be below 90 overall.

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I think Savard should be right around that 86/87 mark. Same for Emery. I think Bulin and Kolzig are better than him because of their experience, but it's pretty close.

Good analysis BritSabre, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Hopefully the ratings will be easy to modify once again in case they screw up too much ratings. Good point on Staal, although I don't think he's earned a 90. More like 86 or something.

With the AHL in this year, there is an even bigger error margin for EA to screw up the minor leaguers' ratings.

BritSabre, care to post what the Sabres' farm system players' ratings might look like, like I did with the Habs?

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08-01-2007, 11:50 AM
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Edmonton's List:

Hemsky (91)
Pitkanen (91)
Souray (90)
Roloson (88)
Horcoff (87)
Stoll (87)
Torres (85)
Sanderson (84)
Staios (83)
Tarnstrom (83)
Smid (83)
Moreau (82)
Garon (82)
Pisani (81)
Grebeskov (81)
Greene (80)
Nilsson (80)
Reasoner (78)
Thoresen (78)
Schremp (78)
Pouliot (77)
Gilbert (77)

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I agree Sakic should be high... He's legendary.

Vancouvers top 5.

Luongo: 96
Daniel: 88
Henrik: 87
Naslund: 88
Mitchell/Ohlund: 85-86
Naslund is not an 88 anymore...85 sounds about right.

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yeah... i guess kaberle@89-91 is ok

others i could see...

Colaiacovo - 81
stajan - 74
steen - 77
wellwood - 83
white - 77
kilger - 74
battaglia - 72
pohl - 74
antropov - 78
ponikarovsky - 81
Tucker - 84
i could be way off here

that's not bad at all, tucker is a little too high, say carlo is 80
stajan is good
steen 78
white 75
poni and antro...hmmm poni i like antro...75-77

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Edmonton's List:

Hemsky (91)
Pitkanen (91)
Souray (90)
Roloson (88)
Horcoff (87)
Stoll (87)
Torres (85)
Sanderson (84)
Staios (83)
Tarnstrom (83)
Smid (83)
Moreau (82)
Garon (82)
Pisani (81)
Grebeskov (81)
Greene (80)
Nilsson (80)
Reasoner (78)
Thoresen (78)
Schremp (78)
Pouliot (77)
Gilbert (77)
See, thats exactly how they shouldnt be rated, or how EA has rated them in the past. I think the fact that the gameplay was unrealistic in previous installment is because there werent a big enough gab between the lower NHL players (like Gilbert, 77) and the stars (Hemsky, Pitkanen and Souray are not stars, thus shouldnt be anywhere near 90).

This is how I see Edmonton personally:

Hemsky 83
Moreau 74
Jacques 69
Nilson 69
Stortini 67

Stoll 79
Horcoff 79
Reasoner 73
Thoresen 71
Pouliot 70

Torres 77
Pisani 76
Sanderson 74

Souray 83
Pitkanen 79
Staios 77
Smid 73
Tarnstrom 72
Greene 71
Gilbert 70
Grebeshkov 70

Roloson 86
Garon 82

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NHL 2004 was my favourite hockey game, and imo had accurate attributes... until you reached your 10th year and half your teams drafted players were over 90.

i've heard good thing about the latest EA games after a couple of bad'uns, so i might try 08. I have 2k7 on the ps2 its OK but nothing special.

i like 57's rankings, i agree with more or less all of them.

here's my stab at the Sabres... very similar to BritSabres in many ways after looking at his.

Forwards
Afinogenov 87
Vanek 86
Roy 83
Connolly 83
Kotalik 81
Pominville 80
Hecht 79
Stafford 75
Gaustad 75
Paille 72
Mair 71
Ryan 67
Peters 66

Campbell 82
Lydman 82
Tallinder 81
Kalinin 78
Spacek 77
Numminen 76
Paetsch 74

Miller 88
T-bo 80

(edit to add a few youth players who would likely be on the game)

MacArthur 68 (potential in low 80s)
Kaleta 66 (potential in 70s)
Zagrapan 65 (potential in low 90s)

Sekera 68 (potential in late 80s)
Funk 65 (potential in high 70s)
Card 62 (potential in 70s)

Dennis 65 (potential in 70s)


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