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08-01-2007, 10:28 AM
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Kunitz - McDonald - Selanne
Perry - Getzlaf – Bertuzzi
Moen - Pahlsson - R.Niedermayer
Miller/Parros - Carter – May

S.Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-Schneider
Huskins-O'Donnell

Giguere
Hiller

I think we move Marchant and Bryzy for draft pics or other future prospects.
If Selanne and Niedermayer return, I would expect the team would have some trouble fitting Hiller's contract under the cap.

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08-01-2007, 11:35 AM
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- Penner doesn't get matched, Niedermayer retires, and so does Selanne.
- With the money saved from not signing Penner, and replacing him with Ryan, they sign a UFA defenceman (ex.Vaananen) and depth LW (ex. Friesen).

Kunitz - MacDonald - Bertuzzi
May - Getzlaff - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - Niedermayer
Friesen - Marchant - Ryan
Parros

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Huskins - Vaananen
Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov

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- Penner doesn't get matched, Niedermayer retires, and so does Selanne.
- With the money saved from not signing Penner, and replacing him with Ryan, they sign a UFA defenceman (ex.Vaananen) and depth LW (ex. Friesen).

Kunitz - MacDonald - Bertuzzi
May - Getzlaff - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - Niedermayer
Friesen - Marchant - Ryan
Parros

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Huskins - Vaananen
Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov

Looking at this, the Ducks are really in need of another offensive LW.

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08-01-2007, 12:43 PM
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- Penner doesn't get matched, Niedermayer retires, and so does Selanne.
- With the money saved from not signing Penner, and replacing him with Ryan, they sign a UFA defenceman (ex.Vaananen) and depth LW (ex. Friesen).

Kunitz - MacDonald - Bertuzzi
May - Getzlaff - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - Niedermayer
Friesen - Marchant - Ryan
Parros

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Huskins - Vaananen
Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov

Friesen? Is that a joke? Seriously, Friesen? No effing way.

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08-01-2007, 12:44 PM
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- Penner doesn't get matched, Niedermayer retires, and so does Selanne.
- With the money saved from not signing Penner, and replacing him with Ryan, they sign a UFA defenceman (ex.Vaananen) and depth LW (ex. Friesen).

Kunitz - MacDonald - Bertuzzi
May - Getzlaff - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - Niedermayer
Friesen - Marchant - Ryan
Parros

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Huskins - Vaananen
Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov
Friesen...why does he always get linked to the Ducks. Twice was enough...

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08-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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Here's my shot if Selanne and Nieds are both gone, and so is Penner...

Bertuzzi-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Mac-Ryan
Moen-Neidermayer-Pahlsson
May/Carter-Marchant-Lacouture/Parros
King

Pronger-O'Donnell
Beauchimen-Schnieder
Huskins-Kondrietev
Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov

Looks pretty similar to DucksStudd. Of course, if Ryan doesn't crack the lineup, we've got a bit of a hole there. King could be given a shot there, or even Carter.

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08-01-2007, 01:31 PM
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I expect Penner gone and one of the Selanne/Niedermayer group retiring. I'll keep Selanne in this case.

Kunitz-McDonald-Selanne
Bertuzzi-Getzlaf-Perry - Depends on if Bertuzzi will play on that side
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Carter/Parros/King

Pronger-Beauchemin
Schneider-O'Donnell
Huskins-Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov

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08-01-2007, 01:40 PM
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I expect Penner gone and one of the Selanne/Niedermayer group retiring. I'll keep Selanne in this case.

Kunitz-McDonald-Selanne
Bertuzzi-Getzlaf-Perry - Depends on if Bertuzzi will play on that side
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Carter/Parros/King

Pronger-Beauchemin
Schneider-O'Donnell
Huskins-Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov
Me likey.....ship 100 pts.

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If Penner, Selanne and Niedermayer are gone:

Kunitz - McDonald - Ekman
Bertuzzi - Getzlaf - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - R. Niedermayer
May - Marchant - Hall/Asham

Sub: Parros, LaCouture, King

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Sopel - Huskins

Sub: Hnidy, Kondratiev, DiPenta

Giguere
Bryzgalov


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08-01-2007, 04:59 PM
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If Penner, Selanne and Niedermayer are gone:

Kunitz - McDonald - Ekman
Bertuzzi - Getzlaf - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - R. Niedermayer
May - Marchant - Hall/Asham

Sub: Parros, LaCouture, King

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Sopel - Huskins

Sub: Hnidy, Kondratiev, DiPenta

Giguere
Bryzgalov

Sopel? As in Brent Sopel? When did we get him?

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08-01-2007, 05:02 PM
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Sopel? As in Brent Sopel? When did we get him?
Same time they picked up Hall, Asham and Ekman. Right after they brought back DiPenta.

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Same time they picked up Hall, Asham and Ekman. Right after they brought back DiPenta.
WOW, I didnt know that. Thats good news. I have always thought Sopel was a good defenseman. He put up decent numbers when he was a Canuck.

Funny how many old Canucks Burke is bringing to Anaheim now eh?

May
Bertuzzi
Sopel

Whose next?

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You want us to replace Teemu, DP and Scotty with Carter, Miller and Kondratiev?

That was the team I'd like to see if those players were gone, I thought you guys would figure that out.

guess not...

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Friesen...why does he always get linked to the Ducks. Twice was enough...
He was just an example of a bottom 6 LW available in free agency. But if you want, I'll use another example:

Kunitz - MacDonald - Bertuzzi
May - Getzlaff - Perry
Moen - Pahlsson - Niedermayer
Ekman - Marchant - Ryan
Parros

Pronger - O'Donnell
Schneider - Beauchemin
Huskins - Vaananen
Hnidy

Giguere
Bryzgalov



...sorry, forgot to include Belak

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Ekman is one of the best scorers left on the open market, so why in the world would we bring in Ekman only to use him on the fourth line? I'd guess he'd make a good fit with Marchant... But I'd much rather have him with McDonald and Kunitz, since they'll need another speedster if Selanne's gone.

If both Teemu and DP are gone, we would be looking for a top 6 winger, not another bottom 6... Neither of Bertuzzi or Ryan would be any good fit on the McDonald line, they're not fast enough IMO. And to be honest, there's not many options left on the UFA market. Ekman is probably the only choice left that has both speed and is capable of making 50, maybe 60+ points.

But as many already said, Ekman is not the Burke kind of player. Also, Ekman is a very similar player to Chris Kunitz and you only want one of those player types on a 1st line. But who knows, BB has suprised many people before.


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Ekman is one of the best scorers left on the open market, so why in the world would we bring in Ekman only to use him on the fourth line? I'd guess he'd make a good fit with Marchant... But much I'd rather have him with McDonald and Kunitz, since they'll need another speedster if Selanne's gone.

If Teemu's gone, we would be looking for a top 6 winger, not another bottom 6... Neither of Bertuzzi or Ryan would be any good fit on the McDonald line, they're not fast enough IMO. And to be honest, there's not many options left on the UFA market. Ekman is probably the only choice left that has both speed and is capable of making 60+ points.

But as many already said, Ekman is not the Burke kind of player... But who knows, BB has suprised many people before.

I couldnt agree more. I dont think Bert will play with Kunitz and McDonald. Too slow. Teemus skates are hard to fill. The man scored 48 goals and had 94 points last season. Thats insane. It was great watching him win the cup, he deserved it. I just hope he returns and does it again.

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Bertuzzi isn't exactly slow, ya know.

If Rucchin could play with Selanne and Kariya, Bert can play with Andy Mac.

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Bertuzzi isn't exactly slow, ya know.

If Rucchin could play with Selanne and Kariya, Bert can play with Andy Mac.
Compared to Selanne, Ekman, Kunitz or McDonald... Bertuzzi's a snail...

The Ducks couldn't really afford anything better than Rucchin, but it wasn't neccesary either, since Kariya and Selanne had such a good chemistry...

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Compared to Selanne, Ekman, Kunitz or McDonald... Bertuzzi's a snail...

The Ducks couldn't really afford anything better than Rucchin, but it wasn't neccesary either, since Kariya and Selanne had such a good chemistry...
So Bert could hang with Naslund, but not the Ducks top line? Riiight. TSN describes him as "mobile". Doesn't exactly conjure up images of a snail to me.

McD and Kunitz can have the chemistry and Bert will just play rover at the blue line. Fair enough?

edit - most people don't have the flat out speed of Selanne and McDonald, including Kunitz. It doesn't mean any top tier player isn't capable of playing with them.

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lets face it as it is
if scotty and teemu are back we will have one of the best teams in history
defense will be brutal, offense as well (bertuzzi can play 70+games)

oh man another thing why they(scotty,teemu) should continue
Nonis will feel ashamed

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So Bert could hang with Naslund, but not the Ducks top line? Riiight. TSN describes him as "mobile". Doesn't exactly conjure up images of a snail to me.

McD and Kunitz can have the chemistry and Bert will just play rover at the blue line. Fair enough?

edit - most people don't have the flat out speed of Selanne and McDonald, including Kunitz. It doesn't mean any top tier player isn't capable of playing with them.
agreed... But when a key player is gone, you're trying to get a similar one. And since there is no player left on the UFA market who's similar to Teemu, you would go after a player that at least has a few similar skills, and that's where the speed come's in.

Another factor I don't like having Bertuzzi on the 1st line is because he's injuryprone... For comparsion Gagne and Knuble in 05/06 had to suffer because Forsberg was injured most of the time. That is a risk we'd be taking with Bertuzzi as well IMO.

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agreed... But when a key player is gone, you're trying to get a similar one. And since there is no player left on the UFA market who's similar to Teemu, you would go after a player that at least has a few similar skills, and that's where the speed come's in.

Another factor I don't like having Bertuzzi on the 1st line is because he's injuryprone... For comparsion Gagne and Knuble in 05/06 had to suffer because Forsberg was injured most of the time. That is a risk we'd be taking with Bertuzzi as well IMO.
You mean like the ability to put the puck in the net, and/or set up other players? I think Bert's up to the task (assuming he half-assed regains his form).

So if you were coach you'd play the season based on 'what if's'? You wouldn't last long. Up until last season he hadn't had really any significant injury issues. Going back to the '99-'00 season the fewest games he played was 69. That's not too bad.

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